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From: "Skidanov, Alexey" <alexey.skidanov@intel.com>
To: Liam Mark <lmark@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"devel@driverdev.osuosl.org" <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
	"tkjos@android.com" <tkjos@android.com>,
	"rve@android.com" <rve@android.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"maco@android.com" <maco@android.com>,
	"sumit.semwal@linaro.org" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v3] staging: android: ion: Add implementation of dma_buf_vmap and dma_buf_vunmap
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 22:11:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <040863540BC4D141BEB177532350882876A5692E@hasmsx108.ger.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1901040940260.19175@lmark-linux.qualcomm.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liam Mark [mailto:lmark@codeaurora.org]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 19:42
> To: Skidanov, Alexey <alexey.skidanov@intel.com>
> Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>; Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>;
> devel@driverdev.osuosl.org; tkjos@android.com; rve@android.com; linux-
> kernel@vger.kernel.org; maco@android.com; sumit.semwal@linaro.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] staging: android: ion: Add implementation of dma_buf_vmap and
> dma_buf_vunmap
> 
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018, Alexey Skidanov wrote:
> 
> > >>> I was wondering if we could re-open the discussion on adding support to
> > >>> ION for dma_buf_vmap.
> > >>> It seems like the patch was not taken as the reviewers wanted more
> > >>> evidence of an upstream use case.
> > >>>
> > >>> Here would be my upstream usage argument for including dma_buf_vmap
> > >>> support in ION.
> > >>>
> > >>> Currently all calls to ion_dma_buf_begin_cpu_access result in the creation
> > >>> of a kernel mapping for the buffer, unfortunately the resulting call to
> > >>> alloc_vmap_area can be quite expensive and this has caused a performance
> > >>> regression for certain clients when they have moved to the new version of
> > >>> ION.
> > >>>
> > >>> The kernel mapping is not actually needed in ion_dma_buf_begin_cpu_access,
> > >>> and generally isn't needed by clients. So if we remove the creation of the
> > >>> kernel mapping in ion_dma_buf_begin_cpu_access and only create it when
> > >>> needed we can speed up the calls to ion_dma_buf_begin_cpu_access.
> > >>>
> > >>> An additional benefit of removing the creation of kernel mappings from
> > >>> ion_dma_buf_begin_cpu_access is that it makes the ION code more secure.
> > >>> Currently a malicious client could call the DMA_BUF_IOCTL_SYNC IOCTL with
> > >>> flags DMA_BUF_SYNC_END multiple times to cause the ION buffer kmap_cnt to
> > >>> go negative which could lead to undesired behavior.
> > >>>
> > >>> One disadvantage of the above change is that a kernel mapping is not
> > >>> already created when a client calls dma_buf_kmap. So the following
> > >>> dma_buf_kmap contract can't be satisfied.
> > >>>
> > >>> /**
> > >>> * dma_buf_kmap - Map a page of the buffer object into kernel address
> > >>> space. The
> > >>> * same restrictions as for kmap and friends apply.
> > >>> * @dmabuf:	[in]	buffer to map page from.
> > >>> * @page_num:	[in]	page in PAGE_SIZE units to map.
> > >>> *
> > >>> * This call must always succeed, any necessary preparations that might
> > >>> fail
> > >>> * need to be done in begin_cpu_access.
> > >>> */
> > >>>
> > >>> But hopefully we can work around this by moving clients to dma_buf_vmap.
> > >> I think the problem is with the contract. We can't ensure that the call
> > >> is always succeeds regardless the implementation - any mapping might
> > >> fail. Probably this is why  *all* clients of dma_buf_kmap() check the
> > >> return value (so it's safe to return NULL in case of failure).
> > >>
> > >
> > > I think currently the call to dma_buf_kmap will always succeed since the
> > > DMA-Buf contract requires that the client first successfully call
> > > dma_buf_begin_cpu_access(), and if dma_buf_begin_cpu_access() succeeds
> > > then dma_buf_kmap will succeed.
> > >
> > >> I would suggest to fix the contract and to keep the dma_buf_kmap()
> > >> support in ION.
> > >
> > > I will leave it to the DMA-Buf maintainers as to whether they want to
> > > change their contract.
> > >
> > > Liam
> > >
> > > Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum,
> > > a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project
> > >
> >
> > Ok. We need the list of the clients using the ION in the mainline tree.
> >
> 
> Looks to me like the only functions which might be calling
> dma_buf_kmap/dma_buf_kunmap on ION buffers are
> tegra_bo_kmap/tegra_bo_kunmap, I assume Tegra is used in some Android
> automotive products.
> 
> Looks like these functions could be moved over to using
> dma_buf_vmap/dma_buf_vunmap but it wouldn't be very clean and would add a
> performance hit.
> 
> Liam
> 
> Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of Code Aurora Forum,
> a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project

I'm a little bit confused. Why making the buffer accessible by CPU (mapping the buffer)
and making the content of the buffer valid (coherent) are so tightly coupled in DMA-BUF? 

Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-04 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-31 12:03 [PATCH v3] staging: android: ion: Add implementation of dma_buf_vmap and dma_buf_vunmap Alexey Skidanov
2018-01-31 13:00 ` Greg KH
2018-02-01  6:10   ` Alexey Skidanov
2018-02-06 23:56     ` Laura Abbott
2018-02-07  5:25       ` Alexey Skidanov
2018-12-16  5:20         ` Liam Mark
2018-12-16  6:35           ` Alexey Skidanov
2018-12-17 18:42             ` Liam Mark
2018-12-18 16:24               ` Alexey Skidanov
2019-01-04 17:41                 ` Liam Mark
2019-01-04 22:11                   ` Skidanov, Alexey [this message]
2019-01-29 23:56                     ` Liam Mark

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