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From: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Evgenii Shatokhin <eshatokhin@virtuozzo.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v0 2/3] livepatch: update documentation/samples for callbacks
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 17:08:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <069122bb-15e6-61f6-e98c-07b356a12942@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180302111111.f6tt2rnwa4nnbswh@pathway.suse.cz>

On 03/02/2018 06:11 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Tue 2018-02-27 09:58:40, Joe Lawrence wrote:
>> In my mind, atomic replace is the mechanism that forces patching to be
>> cumulative.  Perhaps this is too strict?  Are there other use-cases for
>> atomic-replace?
> 
> Jason talked about using the atomic replace to get rid of any
> existing livepatches and adding another changes instead. The changes
> in the old and the new patch might be unrelated. They simply do
> not want to mind what was there before. The term "atomic replace"
> fits perfectly for this usecase.
> 
> My understanding is that cumulative patches do similar thing.
> But the old and new patches should be related. In particular,
> any new patch should include most changes from the older one.
> The only exception is when an old change was wrong and we do
> not want it anymore.

Yes, I can see the semantic difference between these cases.  In my mind,
I am tainted by an understanding of the implementation... so I lazily
optimized both cases under a common terminology.

That said, you're right about potential confusion, so I'll update the
example and docs to remove references to "cumulative" and just call it
"atomic-replace" :)

> PS: I did not added these patches to v9 of the atomic replace
> patchset. It was already big enough. And I hope that v9 might
> be final. In addition, there are no conflicts on the touched
> files side.

I can continue to update as a separate patchset if that helps the the
other patchset reach a quicker conclusion.

As far as licensing, I don't mind modifying for SPDX tags if that's the
way we want to go.

Thanks,

-- Joe

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-02 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-23 21:33 [PATCH v0 0/3] additional cumulative livepatch doc/samples Joe Lawrence
2018-02-23 21:33 ` [PATCH v0 1/3] livepatch: add sample cumulative patch Joe Lawrence
2018-02-25  1:38   ` Philippe Ombredanne
2018-02-27 11:54     ` Miroslav Benes
2018-03-02  1:19       ` Philippe Ombredanne
2018-03-02  8:31         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-03-02  9:11           ` Miroslav Benes
2018-02-27 11:37   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-02-23 21:33 ` [PATCH v0 2/3] livepatch: update documentation/samples for callbacks Joe Lawrence
2018-02-27 12:36   ` Miroslav Benes
2018-02-27 14:58     ` Joe Lawrence
2018-02-28 13:20       ` Miroslav Benes
2018-03-02 11:11       ` Petr Mladek
2018-03-02 22:08         ` Joe Lawrence [this message]
2018-02-23 21:33 ` [PATCH v0 3/3] livepatch: update documentation for shadow variables Joe Lawrence
2018-03-02 11:58   ` Petr Mladek

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