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From: Jean-Louis Biasini <jl.biasini@laposte.net>
To: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ritesh Harjani <riteshh@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	wugyuan@cn.ibm.com, Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@aol.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	ecryptfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] ecryptfs_lookup_interpose(): lower_dentry->d_inode is not stable
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2019 21:18:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <073aec80-353a-1568-8f4b-4d9330c0d5b4@laposte.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191113125216.GF26530@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

Please can you UNSUBSCRIBE me from this list?

thx

Le 13/11/2019 à 13:52, Al Viro a écrit :
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 09:01:36AM +0200, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>>> -       if (d_really_is_negative(lower_dentry)) {
>>> +       /*
>>> +        * negative dentry can go positive under us here - its parent is not
>>> +        * locked.  That's OK and that could happen just as we return from
>>> +        * ecryptfs_lookup() anyway.  Just need to be careful and fetch
>>> +        * ->d_inode only once - it's not stable here.
>>> +        */
>>> +       lower_inode = READ_ONCE(lower_dentry->d_inode);
>>> +
>>> +       if (!lower_inode) {
>>>                 /* We want to add because we couldn't find in lower */
>>>                 d_add(dentry, NULL);
>>>                 return NULL;
>> Sigh!
>>
>> Open coding a human readable macro to solve a subtle lookup race.
>> That doesn't sound like a scalable solution.
>> I have a feeling this is not the last patch we will be seeing along
>> those lines.
>>
>> Seeing that developers already confused about when they should use
>> d_really_is_negative() over d_is_negative() [1] and we probably
>> don't want to add d_really_really_is_negative(), how about
>> applying that READ_ONCE into d_really_is_negative() and
>> re-purpose it as a macro to be used when races with lookup are
>> a concern?
> Would you care to explain what that "fix" would've achieved here,
> considering the fact that barriers are no-ops on UP and this is
> *NOT* an SMP race?
>
> And it's very much present on UP - we have
> 	fetch ->d_inode into local variable
> 	do blocking allocation
> 	check if ->d_inode is NULL now
> 	if it is not, use the value in local variable and expect it to be non-NULL
>
> That's not a case of missing barriers.  At all.  And no redefinition of
> d_really_is_negative() is going to help - it can't retroactively affect
> the value explicitly fetched into a local variable some time prior to
> that.
>
> There are other patches dealing with ->d_inode accesses, but they are
> generally not along the same lines.  The problem is rarely the same...
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-11-13 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-27  4:42 [PATCH RESEND 1/1] vfs: Really check for inode ptr in lookup_fast Ritesh Harjani
2019-10-15  4:07 ` Ritesh Harjani
2019-10-22 13:38   ` Ritesh Harjani
2019-10-22 14:37     ` Al Viro
2019-10-22 14:50       ` Al Viro
2019-10-22 20:11       ` Al Viro
2019-10-23 11:05         ` Ritesh Harjani
2019-11-01 23:46           ` Al Viro
2019-11-02  6:17             ` Al Viro
2019-11-02 17:24               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 17:22             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-02 18:08               ` Al Viro
2019-11-03 14:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-03 16:35                 ` [RFC] lookup_one_len_unlocked() lousy calling conventions Al Viro
2019-11-03 18:20                   ` Al Viro
2019-11-03 18:51                     ` [PATCH][RFC] ecryptfs_lookup_interpose(): lower_dentry->d_inode is not stable Al Viro
2019-11-03 19:03                       ` [PATCH][RFC] ecryptfs_lookup_interpose(): lower_dentry->d_parent is not stable either Al Viro
2019-11-13  7:01                       ` [PATCH][RFC] ecryptfs_lookup_interpose(): lower_dentry->d_inode is not stable Amir Goldstein
2019-11-13 12:52                         ` Al Viro
2019-11-13 16:22                           ` Amir Goldstein
2019-11-13 20:18                           ` Jean-Louis Biasini [this message]
2019-11-03 17:05                 ` [PATCH][RFC] ecryptfs unlink/rmdir breakage (similar to caught in ecryptfs rename last year) Al Viro
2019-11-09  3:13                 ` [PATCH][RFC] race in exportfs_decode_fh() Al Viro
2019-11-09 16:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-11-09 18:26                     ` Al Viro
2019-11-11  9:16                   ` Christoph Hellwig

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