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From: Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2020 13:29:20 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0830ba57-d416-4788-351a-6d1b2ca5b7d8@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200609111615.GD780233@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On 6/9/20 2:16 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 01:45:58PM +0300, Stanimir Varbanov wrote:
>> This adds description of the level bitmask feature.
>>
>> Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> (maintainer:DOCUMENTATION)
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>
>> ---
>>  Documentation/admin-guide/dynamic-debug-howto.rst | 10 ++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/dynamic-debug-howto.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/dynamic-debug-howto.rst
>> index 0dc2eb8e44e5..c2b751fc8a17 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/dynamic-debug-howto.rst
>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/dynamic-debug-howto.rst
>> @@ -208,6 +208,12 @@ line
>>  	line -1605          // the 1605 lines from line 1 to line 1605
>>  	line 1600-          // all lines from line 1600 to the end of the file
>>  
>> +level
>> +    The given level will be a bitmask ANDed with the level of the each ``pr_debug()``
>> +    callsite. This will allow to group debug messages and show only those of the
>> +    same level.  The -p flag takes precedence over the given level. Note that we can
>> +    have up to five groups of debug messages.
> 
> As was pointed out, this isn't a "level", it's some arbitrary type of
> "grouping".

Yes, it is grouping of KERN_DEBUG level messages by importance (my
fault, I put incorrect name).  What is important is driver author
decision.  Usually when the driver is huge and has a lot of debug
messages it is not practical to enable all of them to chasing a
particular bug or issue.  You know that debugging (printk) add delays
which could hide or rise additional issue(s) which would complicate
debug and waste time.

For the Venus driver I have defined three groups of KERN_DEBUG - low,
medium and high (again the driver author(s) will decide what the
importance is depending on his past experience).

There is another point where the debugging is made by person who is not
familiar with the driver code. In that case he/she cannot enable lines
or range of lines because he don't know the details. Here the grouping
by importance could help.

> 
> But step back, why?  What is wrong with the existing control of dynamic
> debug messages that you want to add another type of arbitrary grouping
> to it?  And who defines that grouping?  Will it be
> driver/subsystem/arch/author specific?  Or kernel-wide?
> 
> This feels like it could easily get out of hand really quickly.
> 
> Why not just use tracepoints if you really want to be fine-grained?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
> 

-- 
regards,
Stan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-09 10:45 [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Documentation: dynamic-debug: Add description of level bitmask Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:09   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 11:16   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 16:58     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 17:42       ` Edward Cree
2020-06-09 17:56         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 18:08           ` Edward Cree
2020-06-10  6:31       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10  6:35         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  7:09           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10  7:24             ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 10:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov [this message]
2020-06-10 12:26       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] dynamic_debug: Group debug messages by " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 12:27   ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] dev_printk: Add dev_dbg_level macro over dynamic one Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] printk: Add pr_debug_level " Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] venus: Add debugfs interface to set firmware log level Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:12   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11 11:51     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] venus: Make debug infrastructure more flexible Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:14   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 13:29     ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-10 13:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-10 19:49         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10 20:23           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11  6:26             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-06-11  6:42               ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 10:52                 ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 11:31                   ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-11 12:18                     ` Daniel Thompson
2020-06-11 21:19                       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-11 21:59                         ` Jason Baron
2020-06-11 22:33                           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-12  0:08                         ` jim.cromie
2020-06-10 18:32   ` WIP generic module->debug_flags and dynamic_debug jim.cromie
2020-06-10 20:24     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-11 11:26     ` Rasmus Villemoes
2020-06-11 14:09       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 10:46 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] venus: Add a debugfs file for SSR trigger Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-09 11:13 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] Venus dynamic debug Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-09 16:03   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-06-09 16:49     ` Joe Perches
2020-06-09 21:21       ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 22:23         ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  1:58           ` Joe Perches
2020-06-10  3:10           ` jim.cromie
2020-06-09 16:40 ` Joe Perches

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