From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:09:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:09:23 -0500 Received: from vsat-148-63-243-254.c3.sb4.mrt.starband.net ([148.63.243.254]:260 "HELO ns1.ltc.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:09:14 -0500 Message-ID: <08d701c18412$0e91d2c0$5601010a@prefect> From: "Bradley D. LaRonde" To: Cc: "Thomas Capricelli" , In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Mounting a in-ROM filesystem efficiently Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 15:09:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard B. Johnson" To: "Bradley D. LaRonde" Cc: "Thomas Capricelli" ; Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Mounting a in-ROM filesystem efficiently > On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Bradley D. LaRonde wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard B. Johnson" > > To: "Bradley D. LaRonde" > > Cc: "Thomas Capricelli" ; > > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:34 PM > > Subject: Re: Mounting a in-ROM filesystem efficiently > > > Well RAM is a hell of a lot cheaper than NVRAM. If you don't have > > > the required RAM on your box, the hardware engineers screwed up > > > and have to be "educated" preferably with an axe in the parking-lot. > > > > As I mentioned before, there may be other-than-cost considerations for > > choosing the amount of RAM on a box. For example, low power consumption on > > portable devices. For another example, a huge ROM database that doesn't > > need to be in RAM all at once. > > > > Regards, > > Brad > > > > Then you make a block-device device-driver that extracts and uncompresses > each read from ROM/NVRAM upon demand. It pretends to write. The actual > data-storage device is still paged and it only writes to the caller's > buffer so it doesn't use any RAM for storage. Or you could use cramfs + the patch that I mentioned a few e-mails ago. :-) > There are many arguments, but I don't think power consumption is > one of them. Whatever they use for RAM on the palm machines allows > the machines to run a week on 4 'aa' -size batteries. Maybe they > grab kinetic energy from keystrokes using flea-generators ^;). No flea-generators that I know of. :-) SDRAM, even in self-refresh mode, does draw considerable current. But then again so does decompressing stuff from ROM all the time. Regards, Brad