From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 15 May 2002 12:35:04 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 15 May 2002 12:35:03 -0400 Received: from air-2.osdl.org ([65.201.151.6]:272 "EHLO mail.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 15 May 2002 12:35:02 -0400 Subject: Re: InfiniBand BOF @ LSM - topics of interest From: Stephen Hemminger To: Pete Zaitcev Cc: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020515010107.A31154@devserv.devel.redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 15 May 2002 09:34:34 -0700 Message-Id: <1021480474.32059.7.camel@dell_ss3.pdx.osdl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2002-05-14 at 22:01, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > The thing about Infiniband is that its scope is so great. > If you consider Infiniband was only a glorified PCI with serial > connector, the congestion control is not an issue. Credits > are quite sufficient to provide per link flow control, and > everything would work nicely with a couple of switches. > Such was the original plan, anyways, but somehow cluster > ninjas managed to hijack the spec and we have the rabid > overengineering running amok. In fact, they ran so far > that Intel jumped ship and created PCI Express, and we > have discussions about congestion control. Sad, really... > > -- Pete > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ This sounds like deja vu all over again. Each new interconnect technology like ATM seems to go through the cycle: Assert: all other network protocols are crap Deny: history Assert: our problem is different, therefore we must reinvent everything from data transfer up to applications Reality strikes! New technology ends up being used with standard applications and protocols.