From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 27 May 2002 19:31:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 27 May 2002 19:31:07 -0400 Received: from [209.184.141.163] ([209.184.141.163]:55196 "HELO UberGeek") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Mon, 27 May 2002 19:31:06 -0400 Subject: Re: business models [was patent stuff] From: Austin Gonyou To: Karim Yaghmour Cc: Larry McVoy , "Adam J. Richter" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <3CF2BE26.4FF03387@opersys.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.1.0.99 (Preview Release) Date: 27 May 2002 18:31:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1022542262.29146.19.camel@UberGeek> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Man..it's like Farenheit 451, but more like "Hex 0xffff" On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 18:15, Karim Yaghmour wrote: ... > I predict the inverse. Of course, people will actually try to use patents to > restrict free and open source software. And of course, they will push this > as hard and as far as they can. The community, however, will always find > alternative ways to obtain the same results and, in the end, no client wil > use the patent holder's products or services. Instead, they will use the > community's alternative solutions. > > You would like the open source and free software communities to get used > to having their rights being violated. I think the software "manufacturers" > better get used to the fact that they can't outsmart the community, > regardless of the legal/political/financial tools they use. I tend to agree with Karim here for sure. It's human nature to overcome adversity, and this is adversity in one frame of mind, not from different points of view. (Just to clarify the MPAA see adversity in certain aspects of the OSS community I think, but they're the opressors, not us). Also, in the paragraph about "GPL or bugger off", if you feel it's over the top, then it's possible others will too, and then it's simply survival of the fittest. People must change to a degree, but the message they carry is, and probably will remain, the same. Austin