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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: rwhite@pobox.com
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>,
	Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>, Ed Vance <EdV@macrolink.com>,
	"'Theodore Tso'" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: n_tty.c driver patch (semantic and performance correction) (a ll recent versions)
Date: 28 Jul 2002 21:04:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1027886676.790.5.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200207271934.27102.rwhite@pobox.com>

On Sun, 2002-07-28 at 03:34, Robert White wrote:
> Having virtually every user on the planet realize this and just set VMIN == 1 
> is an fairly telling indicator.
> 
> Repeatedly calling the kernel to assemble an input buffer which is necessary 
> if VMIN ==1, is dumb.

VMIN was basically invented for communication protocols when you know
the block length that should arrive within a given timeout. Its pretty
much essential on old old boxes and was very important for
interrupt/context switch reduction when doing block transfers. In that
world the read blocks or in O_NDELAY returns -EAGAIN (0 in old SYS5)
until the data block is big enough to warrant its copying. Similarly
poll has no business saying data is ready until a large enough block is.

When talking to a human setting VMIN > 1 makes no sense anyway. In fact
nowdays it makes even less sense than it did before because of the use
of UTF8 encodings for unicode characters.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-28 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-26 17:48 n_tty.c driver patch (semantic and performance correction) (a ll recent versions) Ed Vance
2002-06-26 20:42 ` Russell King
2002-06-27 16:37 ` Robert White
2002-07-26 14:17 ` Russell King
2002-07-27 22:07   ` Robert White
2002-07-27 23:11     ` Russell King
2002-07-27 23:21     ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-28  2:34       ` Robert White
2002-07-28  3:01         ` Stevie O
2002-07-28 13:34         ` Andries Brouwer
2002-07-28 20:04         ` Alan Cox [this message]
2002-07-30  7:41           ` Robert White
2002-07-28  2:36       ` Robert White
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-07-31 16:58 Ed Vance
2002-07-30 17:07 Ed Vance
2002-07-29 21:46 Ed Vance
2002-07-30  7:50 ` Robert White
2002-06-28 18:12 Ed Vance
2002-06-17 17:27 Ed Vance
2002-06-18  2:00 ` Robert White
2002-06-18 13:05   ` Stuart MacDonald

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