From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:52:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:52:05 -0500 Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.10]:24498 "EHLO mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:52:04 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 11:58:55 -0500 From: Rob Wilkens Subject: Re: Intel And Kenrel Programming (was: Nvidia is a great company) In-reply-to: <1042389923.15051.1.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> To: Alan Cox Cc: Chuck Wolber , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Linux Kernel Mailing List Reply-to: robw@optonline.net Message-id: <1042390735.1208.5.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> Organization: Robert Wilkens MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <1042382565.848.11.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com> <1042389923.15051.1.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 11:45, Alan Cox wrote: > There are actually very few chips we don't have to deal with some kind > of errata on, and the newer more complex chips generally have the larger > collections of errata. > > One thing that has been helpful is the microcode update stuff Intel did, we > hit few bugs that up to date microcode kill off > The hardware engineers, in my experience, will not refer to those issues as bugs, but rather as misdocumented features... No? I mean if an errata is enough to work around the problem, then the documentation was clearly the problem, and not the hardware implementation. As per the microcode updates, I noticed RedHat 8 was autoupdating microcode on each boot IIRC. I've since switched to Debian and don't know that it does this. Should I be concerned? -Rob