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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
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	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
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	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, fweisbec <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
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	baohong liu <baohong.liu@intel.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 3/4] irqflags: Avoid unnecessary calls to trace_ if you can
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:59:43 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1045420715.14686.1524495583859.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180423105325.7d5d245b@gandalf.local.home>

----- On Apr 23, 2018, at 10:53 AM, rostedt rostedt@goodmis.org wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 10:31:28 -0400 (EDT)
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've been wanting to introduce an alternative tracepoint instrumentation
>> "flavor" for e.g. system call entry/exit which rely on SRCU rather than
>> sched-rcu (preempt-off). This would allow taking faults within the
>> instrumentation
>> probe, which makes lots of things easier when fetching data from user-space
>> upon system call entry/exit. This could also be used to cleanly instrument
>> the idle loop.
> 
> I'd be OK with such an approach. And I don't think it would be that
> hard to implement. It could be similar to the rcu_idle() tracepoints,
> where each flavor simply passes in what protection it uses for
> DO_TRACE(). We could do linker tricks to tell the tracepoint.c code how
> the tracepoint is protected (add section code, that could be read to
> update flags in the tracepoint). Of course modules that have
> tracepoints could only use the standard preempt ones.
> 
> That is, if trace_##event##_srcu(trace_##event##_sp, PARAMS), is used,
> then the trace_##event##_sp would need to be created somewhere. The use
> of trace_##event##_srcu() would create a section entry, and on boot up
> we can see that the use of this tracepoint requires srcu protection
> with a pointer to the trace_##event##_sp srcu_struct. This could be
> used to make sure that trace_#event() call isn't done multiple times
> that uses two different protection flavors.
> 
> I'm just brain storming the idea, and I'm sure I screwed up something
> above, but I do believe it is feasible.

The main open question here is whether we want one SRCU grace period
domain per SRCU tracepoint definition, or just one SRCU domain for all
SRCU tracepoints would be fine.

I'm not sure what we would gain by having the extra granularity provided
by one SRCU grace period domain per tracepoint, and having a single SRCU
domain for all SRCU tracepoints makes it easy to batch grace period after
bulk tracepoint modifications.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-23 14:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-17  4:07 [RFC v4 0/4] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq tracepoints Joel Fernandes
2018-04-17  4:07 ` [RFC v4 1/4] tracepoint: Add API to not do lockdep checks during RCU ops Joel Fernandes
2018-04-17  4:07 ` [RFC v4 2/4] softirq: reorder trace_softirqs_on to prevent lockdep splat Joel Fernandes
2018-04-17  4:07 ` [RFC v4 3/4] irqflags: Avoid unnecessary calls to trace_ if you can Joel Fernandes
2018-04-18  9:02   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-04-19  5:43     ` Namhyung Kim
2018-04-20  7:07       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-23  1:14         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-23  3:19           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-23 14:31             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-23 14:53               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-23 14:59                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2018-04-23 15:12                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-23 16:18                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-23 17:12                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-23 17:24                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-23 21:22                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-24 15:56                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-24 16:01                           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-24 17:26                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-24 18:23                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-24 18:26                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-24 18:59                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-24 19:01                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-24 19:09                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-24 19:16                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-24 23:21                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-24 23:46                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-25  0:10                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-25  4:20                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-25 21:27                                             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-25 21:35                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-25 21:40                                               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-25 22:51                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-04-26 15:03                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-26 16:08                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-25 23:13                                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-26 15:13                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-04-26 15:20                                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-26 15:49                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-04-23 15:49                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-26  2:18             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-01  1:18     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-04-17  4:07 ` [RFC v4 4/4] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes

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