From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:02:38 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:02:38 -0500 Received: from [216.234.192.169] ([216.234.192.169]:26897 "HELO miranda.zianet.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 22:02:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Those ruddy punctuation fixes From: Steven Cole To: Dave Jones Cc: Linux Kernel List In-Reply-To: <20030305122008.GA4280@suse.de> References: <20030305111015.B8883@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20030305122008.GA4280@suse.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 05 Mar 2003 20:11:11 -0700 Message-Id: <1046920285.3786.68.camel@spc1.mesatop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 05:20, Dave Jones wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 11:10:15AM +0000, Russell King wrote: > > > Could we stop fix^wbreaking this stuff please. GCC 3.2.2: > > ... > > include/asm/proc-fns.h:128:39: missing terminating ' character > > 100% agreed. People really are going too far IMO. > Given that most people will never read those comments, the > effort would be much better spent proof-reading/correcting > documentation than comments. > > The "its just a spelling mistake, it cant break the build!" > mantra is also way off base. If you touch a .c/.h file, you > introduce the possibility of breakage. That is why I was very careful with my its -> it's patch. In the two files where an extra apostrophe would have broken the build, I changed its to it is. Why not just leave it alone? Because some well-meaning spelling fixer may come along in the future and break it, just like in proc-fns.h. > > The cant -> can't pedantry is an example of just how extremely > silly these are getting. Is there really someone who sees > "cant" and doesn't understand what it could mean? > It just pedantic masturbation AFAICS. > > Dave It's too bad that the cant -> can't change is tarred with the same brush as thresold -> threshold and asociation -> association. My belief is that those kind of fixes have these benefits: The comments are more readable. The source can be grepped more accurately. Correct spelling sets a good example. Incorrect spelling sets a bad example and proliferates. Why all the fixes now? Because it's a window of opportunity. Linus seems more comfortable with accepting these kind of changes now than at other times. If we don't get these changes in now, expect to have this same conversation around 2.9.50 or so. (Assuming that 3.0 will follow 2.6) Cheers, Steven