From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264149AbTDWReK (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:34:10 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264145AbTDWReK (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:34:10 -0400 Received: from pcp701542pcs.bowie01.md.comcast.net ([68.50.82.18]:4564 "EHLO lucifer.gotontheinter.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264169AbTDWRdS (ORCPT ); Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:33:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Bug 623] New: Volume not remembered. From: Disconnect To: linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <1527920000.1051118798@flay> References: <21660000.1051114998@[10.10.2.4]> <20030423164558.GA12202@citd.de> <1508310000.1051116963@flay> <20030423172120.GA12497@citd.de> <3EA6947D.9080106@suwalski.net> <1527920000.1051118798@flay> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051119922.16492.50.camel@sparky> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4 Date: 23 Apr 2003 13:45:23 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2003-04-23 at 13:26, Martin J. Bligh wrote: > I agree it's a disto problem to save and restore. > > But I fail to understand how the distro can magically set a sensible > default, and yet we're unable to do so inside the kernel ? Setting it > to something like 10 (or other very quiet setting) would seem reasonable. > Then at least the poor user would have a clue what the problem was. > > As to "There was little coherance between the various soundcards", yes > this probably needs to be a per-soundcard setting for sensible defaults. > I presume this is what the distros do? > > Defaulting to silence seems user-malevolent ... The key there is -save- and restore. The script defaults to "don't touch" until it has a saved setting to use, which it can get either from some user-triggered method or from a clean shutdown.. That, AFAIR, is also at least vaguely how that other desktop OS tends to work - on shutdown save the settings, on boot restore them... -- Disconnect