From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262228AbTDXX2o (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:28:44 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261329AbTDXX2o (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:28:44 -0400 Received: from pc2-cwma1-4-cust86.swan.cable.ntl.com ([213.105.254.86]:21894 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262228AbTDXX2n (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 19:28:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! From: Alan Cox To: Werner Almesberger Cc: Timothy Miller , Jamie Lokier , Andreas Jellinghaus , Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20030424192941.E1425@almesberger.net> References: <20030424083730.5F79A2127F@dungeon.inka.de> <20030424085913.GH28253@mail.jlokier.co.uk> <3EA804A8.8070608@techsource.com> <1051209350.4004.6.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030424192941.E1425@almesberger.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1051224115.4005.85.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 24 Apr 2003 23:41:56 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Iau, 2003-04-24 at 23:29, Werner Almesberger wrote: > It's also worth to keep in mind that such decisions are frequently > taken by people with very different agendas, e.g. if "protected by > DRM" is perceived to appeal to analysts, shareholders or potential > shareholders, it may quickly become policy in many companies, just > like patents did. Abusing DRM is a direct economic winner for anyone who does, thats precisely the problem. Its also an economic loss for everyone who isn't able to abuse it. The latter tend to be have less influence with the US government. With DRM the music industry can prevent artists from doing independant publishing by making the case that "unprotected music is pirate" and "mandating only signed music can be played". Without it they are doomed not because of piracy but because they are less efficient than the alternatives - to many bands less efficient right now than giving the stuff away.