From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263617AbTDYS2p (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:45 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263618AbTDYS2p (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:45 -0400 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com ([24.136.46.5]:23304 "EHLO svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263617AbTDYS2o (ORCPT ); Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:28:44 -0400 Subject: Re: 2.5.68-mm2 From: Robert Love To: "Randy.Dunlap" Cc: Bill Davidsen , bcrl@redhat.com, akpm@digeo.com, mbligh@aracnet.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org In-Reply-To: <20030425112042.37493d02.rddunlap@osdl.org> References: <20030424163334.A12180@redhat.com> <20030425112042.37493d02.rddunlap@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1051295252.9767.143.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.2 (1.3.2-1) (Preview Release) Date: 25 Apr 2003 14:27:32 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2003-04-25 at 14:20, Randy.Dunlap wrote: > > | The point is that even if bash is fixed it's desirable to address the > | issue in the kernel, other applications may well misbehave as well. > > So when would this ever end? Exactly what I was thinking. The kernel cannot be expected to cater to applications or make concessions (read: hacks) for certain behavior. If we offer a cleaner, improved interface which offers the performance improvement, we are done. Applications need to start using it. Of course, I am not arguing against optimizing the old interfaces or anything of that nature. I just believe we should not introduce hacks for application behavior. It is their job to do the right thing. Robert Love