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From: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
To: Marc-Christian Petersen <m.c.p@wolk-project.de>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
Subject: Re: 2.4.22pre6aa1
Date: 24 Jul 2003 10:14:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1059056049.2575.17.camel@tiny.suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307241356.57793.m.c.p@wolk-project.de>

On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 08:27, Marc-Christian Petersen wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 15:59, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrea,
> 
> > performance degradation when? note that we're only talking about
> > contigous I/O here, not contest. I can't measure any performance
> > degradation during contigous I/O and if something it could be explained
> > by the now shorter queue, but you tried enlarging it and it went even
> > slower (this was good btw, confirming a larger queue was completely
> > worthless and it only hurts the VM without providing any I/O bandwidth
> > pipelining benefit). The elevator-lowlatency should have no other effect
> > other than a shorter queue during pure contigous I/O.
> Well, contigous I/O isn't a big problem, though I saw performance degradation 
> in contigous I/O. The problem is, that I still see mouse stops while heavy 
> I/O, that I still see keyboard stops while heavy I/O, X is dog slow while 
> heavy I/O (renicing X to -20 doesn't really help). I really miss the 2.4.18 
> time where this wasn't a problem at all!
> Contest was not the reason. An easy reproducable scenario is:
> 
>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/home/largefile bs=16384 count=131072
> 
> This will kill your mouse, keyboard and X. The only "workaround" not to see 
> mouse stops, keyboard stops and X dogstyle was decreasing nr_requests from 
> 128 to 4. Anything higher resulted in pauses (e.g. 8 for nr_requests).
> Maybe SCSI behaves totally different, dunno. ATM I don't have SCSI around to 
> test it, only IDE (ATA100/ATA133).
 
Ok, there's something fundamental we're missing here, the IDE boxes I
test on don't show this ;-)  Can you setup a serial console and capture
sysrq-t during the pause?  Or better yet setup kgdb.  

What kind of keyboard/mouse do you have?  

I'll give you an updated q->full patch on Monday, including the
__get_request_wait latency stats.

-chris



  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-24 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-17 10:28 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-17 10:42 ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 ooyama eiichi
2003-07-17 10:52   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-17 10:53   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 ooyama eiichi
2003-07-17 15:42 ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Dave Jones
2003-07-17 20:31   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-17 22:13 ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-17 22:26   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-17 22:27   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Mike Fedyk
2003-07-17 22:32     ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-17 22:30   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-17 22:50     ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-18  0:30       ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Chris Mason
2003-07-22 12:28         ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-22 14:04           ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-18  5:47       ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-22 13:34       ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-22 13:59         ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-24 12:27           ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Marc-Christian Petersen
2003-07-24 14:14             ` Chris Mason [this message]
2003-07-18 18:18 ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Christoph Hellwig
2003-07-18 22:27   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-18 22:48     ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-18 22:53       ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-18 23:04         ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-18 23:12           ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-18 23:53             ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 William Lee Irwin III
2003-07-19  0:04               ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-23 11:21 2.4.22pre6aa1 Sergey S. Kostyliov
2003-07-25  5:28 ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-07-25 11:10   ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Sergey S. Kostyliov
2003-07-25 19:02     ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-03 17:12       ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Sergey S. Kostyliov
2003-08-16 11:56         ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-16 13:54           ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Hugh Dickins
2003-08-16 14:00             ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Hugh Dickins
2003-08-16 14:50               ` 2.4.22pre6aa1 Sergey S. Kostyliov

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