From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S272911AbTG3Orl (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:47:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S272913AbTG3Ork (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:47:40 -0400 Received: from crosslink-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.254]:64756 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S272911AbTG3Ori (ORCPT ); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 10:47:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove module reference counting. From: Alan Cox To: Rusty Russell Cc: notting@redhat.com, arjanv@redhat.com, torvalds@osdl.org, shemminger@osdl.org, davem@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20030730063310.70b5c794.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> References: <20030727193919.832302C450@lists.samba.org> <20030727214701.A23137@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20030727201242.A29448@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <1059392321.15458.23.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> <20030730063310.70b5c794.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Message-Id: <1059576018.8052.44.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 30 Jul 2003 15:40:18 +0100 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Maw, 2003-07-29 at 21:33, Rusty Russell wrote: > > I guess kudzu could simply do lots of I/O ops directly on the floppy > > hardware to detect it without loading drivers but thats pretty fugly. > > Agreed that'd be kinda silly. But I was "educated" earlier that driver > loading shouldn't fail just because hardware is missing, due to hotplug. > > Is this wrong? On systems without hotplug, on not hotpluggable devices and in a few other cases - yes.