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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>
Cc: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bug in setpgid()? process groups and thread groups
Date: 03 Aug 2003 22:00:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1059944423.31901.8.camel@dhcp22.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8765lfxl21.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>

On Sul, 2003-08-03 at 08:22, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> 
> > #1 Lots of non posix afflicted intelligent programmers use the per
> > thread uid stuff in daemons. Its really really useful
> 
> It doesn't work reliably because the threading implementation might
> have to send signals which the current combination of credentials does
> not allow.

It works beautifully.  Its very effective for clone() using applications


> IMHO, POSIX is wrong to favor process attributes so strongly.  It
> wouldn't be a problem if there were other ways to pass these implicit
> parameters (such as thread-specific attributes, or, even better,
> syscall arguments).  But often there isn't.

The restriction in this case comes from a more fundamental thing - posix pthreads
is full of compromises so it can be done in user space. Clearly you can't split
uid's in user space very sanely.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-03 21:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-02  7:57 [PATCH] bug in setpgid()? process groups and thread groups Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-08-02  8:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-08-02  8:50   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-08-02 19:08     ` Roland McGrath
2003-08-02 20:30       ` Nicholas Miell
2003-08-02 20:51       ` Alan Cox
2003-08-03  7:22         ` Florian Weimer
2003-08-03 21:00           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2003-08-03  4:15       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2003-08-02 18:39   ` William Lee Irwin III

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