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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <marcelo@conectiva.com.br>,
	Mike Fedyk <mfedyk@matchmail.com>,
	Antonio Vargas <wind@cocodriloo.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marc-Christian Petersen <m.c.p@wolk-project.de>
Subject: Re: Andrea VM changes
Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:29:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1062343789.10208.9.camel@dhcp23.swansea.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030831145932.GU24409@dualathlon.random>

On Sul, 2003-08-31 at 15:59, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> And I don't see how you can avoid oom killing to ever happen if the apps
> recurse on the stack and growsdown some hundred megs. In such case
> you've to oom kill, since there's no synchronous failure path during the
> stack growsdown walk.

The stack grow fails and you get a signal. Its up to you to have a
language that handles this or in C enjoy the delights of sigaltstack. In
practice the settings are such that this case basically "doesnt happen"
for all normal use.

> I just don't think it solves or hides the other issues, it seems
> completely orthogonal to me, because you can still run oom during stack
> growsdown.

Agreed - and there will always be corner cases, people who don't want
strict overcommit etc. Thats why I said "as well". Its not a replacement
for OOM handling of some form.


  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-31 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-30 15:50 Andrea VM changes Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 19:11 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 19:21   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 23:19     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-30 23:30       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 23:57         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 14:10       ` Alan Cox
2003-08-31 14:59         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:29           ` Alan Cox [this message]
2003-08-31 15:59             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-15  5:16         ` Greg Stark
2003-09-15 10:47           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 11:50     ` Matthias Andree
2003-09-01 19:52       ` Mike Fedyk
2003-09-01 17:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.44.0308311353170.15412-100000@logos.cnet>
2003-09-01 17:27 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 17:50   ` Andrea Arcangeli
     [not found] <qL3q.1Pm.3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <qQ37.2q0.9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-09-01  9:15   ` Ihar 'Philips' Filipau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-09-01  1:02 Dan Kegel
2003-09-01  6:03 ` Rik van Riel
2003-08-31 17:34 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-31 17:34 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-31 22:46 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01  6:01 ` Rik van Riel
2003-09-01 15:54   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-08-31 15:51 Dan Kegel
2003-08-31 15:48 ` Jörn Engel
2003-08-31 16:19   ` Dan Kegel
2003-08-31 19:08 ` Jonathan Lundell
2003-08-31 19:22 ` Chris Frey
2003-08-31 23:42   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-09-01 11:47     ` Alan Cox
2003-08-30 15:13 Marcelo Tosatti
2003-08-30 15:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 18:26   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 18:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-01 19:00   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2003-09-01 19:05     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-09-02 20:51       ` Marcelo Tosatti

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