From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263885AbTICPgJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:36:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263892AbTICPgJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:36:09 -0400 Received: from mailwasher.lanl.gov ([192.16.0.25]:18781 "EHLO mailwasher-b.lanl.gov") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263885AbTICPgF (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:36:05 -0400 Subject: Re: Scaling noise From: Steven Cole To: Antonio Vargas Cc: Larry McVoy , CaT , Anton Blanchard , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20030903124716.GE2359@wind.cocodriloo.com> References: <20030903040327.GA10257@work.bitmover.com> <20030903041850.GA2978@krispykreme> <20030903042953.GC10257@work.bitmover.com> <20030903043355.GC2019@zip.com.au> <20030903050859.GD10257@work.bitmover.com> <1062599136.1724.84.camel@spc9.esa.lanl.gov> <20030903124716.GE2359@wind.cocodriloo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1062603063.1723.91.camel@spc9.esa.lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4-1.1mdk Date: 03 Sep 2003 09:31:04 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 06:47, Antonio Vargas wrote: > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 08:25:36AM -0600, Steven Cole wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:08, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:33:56PM +1000, CaT wrote: > > > [snip] > > > > The question which will continue to be important in the next kernel > > series is: How to best accommodate the future many-CPU machines without > > sacrificing performance on the low-end? The change is that the 'many' > > in the above may start to double every few years. > > > > Some candidate answers to this have been discussed before, such as > > cache-coherent clusters. I just hope this gets worked out before the > > hardware ships. > > As you may probably know, CC-clusters were heavily advocated by the > same Larry McVoy who has started this thread. > Yes, thanks. I'm well aware of that. I would like to get a discussion going again on CC-clusters, since that seems to be a way out of the scaling spiral. Here is an interesting link: http://www.opersys.com/adeos/practical-smp-clusters/ Steven