From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S266025AbUAEX0U (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:26:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S266008AbUAEXZq (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:25:46 -0500 Received: from CPE-24-163-213-29.mn.rr.com ([24.163.213.29]:16052 "EHLO www.enodev.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S266009AbUAEXXi (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jan 2004 18:23:38 -0500 Subject: Re: udev and devfs - The final word From: Shawn To: Mark Mielke Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andries Brouwer , Daniel Jacobowitz , Rob Love , rob@landley.net, Pascal Schmidt , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Greg KH In-Reply-To: <1073343916.21797.21.camel@www.enodev.com> References: <20040104230104.A11439@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <20040105030737.GA29964@nevyn.them.org> <20040105132756.A975@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <20040105205228.A1092@pclin040.win.tue.nl> <1073341077.21797.17.camel@localhost> <20040105222559.GA3513@mark.mielke.cc> <1073343916.21797.21.camel@www.enodev.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1073345016.21797.25.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2004 17:23:36 -0600 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org And looking back on some of these emails, it seems there was more than just me being confused. Seems this is a point worth emphasizing. On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 17:05, Shawn wrote: > On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 16:25, Mark Mielke wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 04:17:57PM -0600, Shawn wrote: > > > ... > > > As an admin, would I at least theoretically have /some/ consistency if > > > merely for my own sanity when dealing with block devices by hand (I do > > > need to setup LVM stuff from time to time)?? > > > > If all you care about is that /dev names remain consistent, you need > > not fear. udev and devfs are two different ways of providing this > > consistency. They abstract the device numbers from the /dev names, > > meaning that you don't have to care if the numbers change. The names > > don't. > I'm obviously confused if this is true, as then I do not know how the > great and powerful udev derives the names if not from the numbers, or > some other sysfs info. > > Anyway, assuming this is true, I have much less concern.