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From: Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@osdl.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: why use ACPI (Re: 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot (if no floppy device))
Date: 22 Nov 2004 20:07:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1101172056.20006.153.camel@d845pe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041123004619.GQ19419@stusta.de>

On Mon, 2004-11-22 at 19:46, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> Not needed "pressing the power button when you halt the system" is the
> "killer application" for using ACPI for me...

Yes, thats certainly one that people notice right away.  Laptops have
had soft poweroff with APM for a while, but desktops and servers never
adopted APM, so soft-power-off is generally a new feature with ACPI for
them.

Enabling IOAPIC is one that a lot of people like, because it results in
less interrupt sharing and better performance than PIC mode.  But if you
don't load your system much you may not notice any difference.

Next people tend to notice fan speed, because they can hear it.
If you load processor and thermal, you'll probably see some
/proc/acpi/thermal/thermal_zone/*/temperature and you'll
probably find that it stays lower if you keep processor
loaded versus when you do not.

This is usually because of power-saving c-csates in idle,
which you can observe in /proc/acpi/processor/*/power
and the higher the C-state, the more power you save.

Also, CPUFREQ usually often on ACPI, and that can save
power even when the system is not idle, and this results
in lower temperatures and hopefully slower fan speeds.

cheers,
-Len



  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-23  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-15  2:49 Linux 2.6.10-rc2 Linus Torvalds
2004-11-15  4:07 ` 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot Adrian Bunk
2004-11-15  4:48   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-15  5:29     ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-15 23:27       ` Chris Wright
2004-11-15 23:58         ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-18 23:14         ` 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot (if no floppy device) Len Brown
2004-11-19  7:09           ` Chris Wright
2004-11-20  9:02             ` Len Brown
2004-11-20 12:40               ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-20 18:28                 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-20 19:10                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 19:55                     ` Len Brown
2004-11-24 16:26                     ` Alan Cox
2004-11-21 16:29                   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-22 19:29                   ` Len Brown
2004-11-22 20:02                     ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 20:10                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 20:38                       ` Len Brown
2004-11-23  2:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-23  4:57                           ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-23  7:06                             ` Len Brown
2004-11-23 20:13                               ` Stian Jordet
2004-11-23  2:00                   ` Chris Wright
2004-11-22 18:28                 ` Len Brown
2004-11-23  0:46                   ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-23  1:07                     ` Len Brown [this message]
2004-11-23  1:23                       ` why use ACPI (Re: 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot (if no floppy device)) Dave Jones
2004-11-23  1:52                         ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-23  1:37                       ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-23  2:47                         ` Len Brown
2004-11-23  2:50                           ` Dave Jones
2004-11-23  3:13                             ` Gene Heskett
2004-11-23  3:45                               ` Dave Jones
2004-11-20 16:41               ` 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot (if no floppy device) Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 19:07                 ` Len Brown
2004-11-22 19:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 20:24                     ` Len Brown
2004-11-22 20:31                       ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 20:36                         ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-22 20:54                           ` Len Brown
2004-11-22 20:51                         ` Len Brown
2004-11-23  1:58               ` Chris Wright
2004-11-19 13:47           ` Adrian Bunk
2004-11-23  1:57           ` Chris Wright
2004-11-15  7:25   ` 2.6.10-rc2 doesn't boot Andrew Morton
2004-11-15 10:26 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 Russell King
2004-11-15 11:24   ` Ben Dooks
2004-11-15 11:55 ` Nick Piggin
2004-11-15 20:20   ` Andrew Morton
2004-11-16  0:29 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 [dvb-bt8xx unload oops] Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-11-16  9:57   ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-11-17 23:17   ` Eyal Lebedinsky
2004-11-16  7:55 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 SAVAGEFB startup crash Philipp Matthias Hahn
2004-11-16  8:17   ` Colin Leroy
2004-11-16 12:43   ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-11-16 17:27     ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2004-11-16 21:20       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-11-17 11:55         ` Philipp Matthias Hahn
2004-11-16 21:43       ` Antonino A. Daplas
2004-11-16 16:25 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 Guido Guenther
2004-11-17 15:54 ` Andrew Walrond
2004-11-17 16:58 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 OOPS on boot with 3ware + reiserfs Vladimir B. Savkin
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.58.0411170935040.2222@ppc970.osdl.org>
     [not found]     ` <20041118103526.GC26240@suse.de>
2004-11-18 16:02       ` Vladimir B. Savkin
2004-11-18 18:39         ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-18 19:10           ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-18 19:22             ` James Bottomley
2004-11-18 21:32               ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-18 21:39                 ` James Bottomley
2004-11-19  8:40                   ` Jens Axboe
2004-11-17 19:32 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 start_udev very slow Andrew Walrond
2004-11-17 23:13   ` Greg KH
2004-12-16 15:56   ` Greg KH
2004-12-16 20:57     ` Andrew Walrond
2004-12-16 21:11       ` Greg KH
2004-12-16 21:20         ` Andrew Walrond
2004-12-16 21:46           ` Greg KH
2004-11-18 17:26 ` Linux 2.6.10-rc2 Vladimir B. Savkin
2004-11-18 17:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2004-11-18 18:01     ` Matthew Wilcox
2004-11-19  8:43       ` Vladimir B. Savkin

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