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From: Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@linuxmail.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	hugang@soulinfo.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>
Subject: Re: Suspend 2 merge
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 14:20:28 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1101698428.4343.336.camel@desktop.cunninghams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041128235530.GB2856@elf.ucw.cz>

Hi.

On Mon, 2004-11-29 at 10:55, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > My machine suspends in 7 seconds, and that's swsusp1. According to
> > > your numbers, suspend2 should suspend it in 1 second and LZE
> > > compressed should be .5 second.
> > 
> > Seven seconds? How much memory is in use when you start, and how much is
> > actually written to disk? If you're starting with 1GB of RAM in use,
> > I'll sit up and listen, but I suspect you're talking about something
> > closer to 20MB and init S :>
> 
> It was on .5GB machine, with X running, IIRC. Specify how should I
> load the system and I'll try it here. swsusp1 got some speedups with
> O(n^2) killing (not yet merged).

So it wrote .5GB of memory in seven seconds, or started with .5GB of RAM
in use?

If we want to compare apples with apples, we're going to have to make
the only difference which code is run. A normal load on my computer is
evolution, cyrus imapd, opera, win4lin running Libronix and a kernel
tree in the cache (last image sizes were 1000, 1002, 995, 949 and
910MB). I'm happy to run your sped-up code for some tests, if you'd
like. You know where to find mine if you want to make sure I'm not
cheating :>

> > These discussions are getting really unreasonable. "I don't want that
> > feature, therefore it shouldn't be merged" isn't a valid argument.
> > Neither is "Well, I can suspend in seven seconds with hardly any memory
> > in use." If you just don't want suspend2 in the kernel, come out and say
> > it. 
> 
> Ok, "I do not want suspend2 in kernel". Not what you'd call suspend2,
> anyway. I thought that stripping down suspend2 then merging it is
> reasonable way to go, but now it seems to me that enhancing swsusp1 is
> easier way to go. At least I'll be able to do it incrementally.

You'll be able to do that within limits, but once you do seriously given
up on the max-half-of-memory limit, you'll need some major redesigning.
If that's the way you want to go, okay. Assuming nothing else changes,
I'll just keep suspend2 alive outside of the kernel tree until you get
sick of users asking, and continue to enhance it.

> I'm sorry about all the confusion, and you can still get that jpeg for
> "put pavel into doom3".

I'm not taking it personally at all. I did find some of the objections
pretty petty and some of the comparisons grossly unfair, but I'm not
taking it personally.
-- 
Nigel Cunningham
Pastoral Worker
Christian Reformed Church of Tuggeranong
PO Box 1004, Tuggeranong, ACT 2901

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ
died for the ungodly.		-- Romans 5:6


  reply	other threads:[~2004-11-29  3:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 245+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-11-24 12:56 Suspend 2 merge Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 1/51: Device trees Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:56 ` Suspend2 merge: 2/51: Find class by name Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 3/51: e820 table support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:53   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 4/51: Get module list Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:25     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:32       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 5/51: Workthread freezer support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 16:57   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 7/51: Reboot handler hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:07   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:19     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 8/51: /proc/acpi/sleep hook Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 9/51: init/* changes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 17:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:36     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:45       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:51         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:58           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:03             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:30               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:14     ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27  7:22       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  9:31         ` Herbert Xu
2004-11-27 13:21           ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-27 16:20             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:43             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 10/51: Exports for suspend built as modules Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 21:52     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:44   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:07   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:40     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:50       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 11/51: Export vt functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge:L 12/51: Disable OOM killer when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:12   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:47     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:54       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 13/51: Disable highmem tlb flush for copyback Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:13   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:57 ` Suspend 2 merge: 14/51: Disable page alloc failure message when suspending Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 14:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:00   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 21:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:25       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:15   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 21:49     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 21:56       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:46         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 15/51: Disable pdflush during suspend Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 16/51: Disable cache reaping " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:18   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 17/51: Disable MCE checking " Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:19   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:31       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:38         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:45           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 18/51: Debug page_alloc support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:02   ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 22:26       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-25 18:21   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:06     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 19/51: Remove MTRR sysdev support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:27   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:22   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 20/51: Timer freezer (experimental) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 21/51: Refrigerator upgrade Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:33   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:10     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:36       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:25           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:49             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:05               ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:12                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27 17:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 21:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 22/51: Suspend2 lowlevel code Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:42   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:20     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:55       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:56         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:39   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 22:38       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:58 ` Suspend 2 merge: 23/51: PPC support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 18:40   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:15     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 24/51: Keyboard and serial console hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 18:47     ` Yaroslav Rastrigin
2004-11-24 21:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:57     ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-24 23:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-25  1:22         ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-25 10:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-26 20:21         ` pb
2004-11-25 19:28     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:39         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29 22:15           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 25/51: Documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 26/51: Kconfig and makefile Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:34   ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:11     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 21:46       ` Roman Zippel
2004-11-24 21:53         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  2:37     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 27/51: Block I/O module Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 28/51: Suspend memory pool hooks Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:34   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 29/51: Clear swapfile bdev in swapoff Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 30/51: Enable slab alloc fallback to suspend memory pool Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 31/51: Export tlb flushing Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 15:32   ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-11-24 21:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 32/51: Make show task non-static Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 12:59 ` Suspend 2 merge: 33/51: More documentation Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 34/51: Includes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:17     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-25  2:43         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 35/51: Code always built in to the kernel Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:32   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:57     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:08       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:17         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:23           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  2:19       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-28 22:39         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27  9:00       ` Jan Rychter
2004-11-27 17:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 36/51: Highlevel I/O routines Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:36   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-27  1:39     ` Tomas Carnecky
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 37/51: Memory pool support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:37   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:00 ` Suspend 2 merge: 38/51: Page directory support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 39/51: Plugins support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 40/51: Prepare image Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 41/51: Ranges (extents) Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 42/51: Suspend.c Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 16:52   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-11-24 21:23     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:43   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 43/51: Utility functions Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:46   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:04     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27 16:11       ` Dave Hansen
2004-11-28 21:36         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:01 ` Suspend 2 merge: 44/51: Text UI plugin Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 45/51: Bootsplash support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 46/51: LZF support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 23:01   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2004-11-25  2:38     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25  6:32       ` hugang
2004-11-25  6:52         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2004-11-25  7:07           ` hugang
2004-11-25 10:10           ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 47/51: GZIP support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:50   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 48/51: Swapwriter Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:55   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:05     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 49/51: Checksumming Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:56   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:00     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:14       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  9:55   ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:24     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 23:30       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-30  0:49         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:07           ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 21:45             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 13:02     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 13:38       ` Matthew Garrett
2004-11-30 22:38         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-02 21:31       ` Rob Landley
2004-11-24 13:02 ` Suspend 2 merge: 50/51: Device mapper support Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:58   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:07     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 20:40       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 21:04         ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-02 21:49           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-02 22:08             ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-03 17:47               ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-03 19:57                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-03 20:12                   ` Alasdair G Kergon
2004-12-14  0:47                     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 51/51: Notes Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:01   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  0:09     ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:24       ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-24 13:03 ` Suspend 2 merge: 6/51 Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-24 13:28 ` Suspend 2 merge Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-24 20:46   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 19:20     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 22:34       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-25 23:22         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-25 23:46           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26  0:39             ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26  9:08               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 12:38                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 15:54                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-11-26 22:36                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 22:35                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-28 23:55                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-29  3:20                       ` Nigel Cunningham [this message]
2004-11-29 13:03                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30  0:24                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 10:19                             ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126082109.GA842@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26 13:25                 ` Pavel Machek
     [not found]               ` <20041126043203.GA2713@hugang.soulinfo.com>
2004-11-26  9:08                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-26 13:37                   ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-26 13:31                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28 21:40               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29  9:34             ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-29 22:20               ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-29 22:34                 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-30 12:16                 ` Stefan Seyfried
2004-11-30 21:16                   ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-30 22:20                     ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01  9:27                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-12-01 10:08                         ` Pavel Machek
2004-12-01 20:39                           ` Nigel Cunningham
2004-11-27 22:07 linux
2004-11-27 22:25 ` Pavel Machek
2004-11-28  8:29 ` Wichert Akkerman
2004-11-28 11:37   ` Pavel Machek

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