From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262861AbVAKRR1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:17:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262851AbVAKRQa (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:16:30 -0500 Received: from clock-tower.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:36564 "EHLO localhost.localdomain") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262861AbVAKRPD (ORCPT ); Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:15:03 -0500 Subject: Re: starting with 2.7 From: Alan Cox To: Dave Airlie Cc: John Richard Moser , znmeb@cesmail.net, Linux Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: <21d7e99705011014197b8a9767@mail.gmail.com> References: <1697129508.20050102210332@dns.toxicfilms.tv> <1105045853.17176.273.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1105115671.12371.38.camel@DreamGate> <41DEC5F1.9070205@comcast.net> <1105237910.11255.92.camel@DreamGate> <41E0A032.5050106@comcast.net> <1105278618.12054.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> <41E1CCB7.4030302@comcast.net> <21d7e99705010917281c6634b8@mail.gmail.com> <1105361337.12054.66.camel@localhost.localdomain> <21d7e99705011014197b8a9767@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1105456316.15742.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 (1.4.6-2) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:10:41 +0000 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Llu, 2005-01-10 at 22:19, Dave Airlie wrote: > kernel/userspace solution, and one is of little use without the other, > if the kernel one is GPL and userspace one is closed source how do > people sit with it? (uneasy?) It would achieve nothing. It would still be undebuggable. We are far better with the current R300 reverse engineering project until such a point as ATI decide that R300 isn't valuable intellectual property any more and will provide more information. In many ways DRI is already superior on the older R2xx cards - it'll play quake 3 without the computer crashing.