From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S261284AbVBGVCx (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:02:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S261287AbVBGVCo (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:02:44 -0500 Received: from sigma957.CIS.McMaster.CA ([130.113.64.83]:34225 "EHLO sigma957.cis.mcmaster.ca") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261284AbVBGVCd (ORCPT ); Mon, 7 Feb 2005 16:02:33 -0500 Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 From: John McCutchan To: Robert Love Cc: Ingo Molnar , Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <1107797420.24154.25.camel@localhost> References: <20050124021516.5d1ee686.akpm@osdl.org> <20050124121729.GA29392@infradead.org> <20050207115736.GB22948@elte.hu> <1107797420.24154.25.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:02:00 -0500 Message-Id: <1107810120.12971.5.camel@vertex> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 X-PMX-Version-Mac: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.2.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.2.7.5 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-Spam-Flag: NO Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 12:30 -0500, Robert Love wrote: > Well, I don't share the hatred for ioctl, at least compared to another > type unsafe interface like write(). > > But John and I are open to doing whatever is the consensus. If there is > an agreed alternative, and that is the requirement for merging, I'll do > it. Yes, if ioctl is unacceptable, then providing a write() interface is what we will do. > > I'd like to keep the user-space interface and simple, and absolutely > want to keep the single file descriptor approach. How the fd is > obtained is up for discussion. I would still like to keep the character device as the interface for getting the fd. I don't see what benefit could be gained by converting to a syscall based interface for getting the fd. -- John McCutchan