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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.co.uk>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru>,
	Ricardo Cerqueira <v4l@cerqueira.org>,
	mchehab@brturbo.com.br,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	video4linux-list@redhat.com, perex@suse.cz,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:17:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1135117067.27101.5.camel@mindpipe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512201248481.4827@g5.osdl.org>

On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 13:03 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Forcing (or even just encouraging) people to use loadable modules is
> just horrible. I personally run a kernel with no modules at all: it
> makes for a simpler bootup, and in some situations (embedded) it has
> both security and size advantages. 

With modules it's possible to test a new ALSA version without
recompiling the kernel or even rebooting.  Encouraging people to build
it into the kernel would create a problematic barrier to entry for
debugging.  With the amount of poorly documented hardware we support,
it's essential for preventing driver regressions for users to be able to
easily test the latest ALSA version.  

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-20 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-19  0:47 Linux 2.6.15-rc6 Linus Torvalds
2005-12-19  1:30 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-19  5:41   ` Willy Tarreau
2005-12-20 13:18 ` 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 15:52   ` [Alsa-devel] " Sergey Vlasov
2005-12-20 18:24     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <20051220183455.GC19797@master.mivlgu.local>
2005-12-20 18:57         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 19:14       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 19:23         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-20 19:59         ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 20:23           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 20:47               ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 21:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 21:13                 ` [RFC: 2.6 patch] Makefile: sound/ must come before drivers/ Adrian Bunk
2005-12-20 21:24                   ` [Alsa-devel] " Jaroslav Kysela
2005-12-20 22:09                   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 14:21                     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 20:49                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 15:32                         ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 16:06                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22 16:17                             ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-22 16:38                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-21 14:23             ` [Alsa-devel] 2.6.15-rc6: boot failure in saa7134-alsa.c Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:22               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 18:38                 ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 22:40                   ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 11:39                     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-20 20:35           ` James Courtier-Dutton
2005-12-20 21:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-20 22:17               ` Lee Revell [this message]
2005-12-21  1:29                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 13:29                 ` Stephen Clark
2005-12-21 14:39               ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 18:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:52                   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-21 22:42                     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-21 22:50                     ` R C
2005-12-21 16:58               ` Steve deRosier
2005-12-21 18:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2005-12-21 18:41                   ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-20 20:35         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22  0:59           ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 11:15             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-12-22  1:13 ` 2.6.15-rc6: known regressions in the kernel Bugzilla Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22  7:15   ` Greg KH
2005-12-22 12:04     ` Takashi Iwai
2005-12-29 13:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-30 19:31         ` Lee Revell
2005-12-22  8:52   ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 13:57     ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-22 14:08       ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-22 23:12         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-23 15:28         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-23 17:32           ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-24  3:54             ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-25 20:25               ` Bill Davidsen
2005-12-26  1:59               ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-26  2:21               ` Lee Revell
2005-12-22 17:11       ` Brice Goglin
     [not found]       ` <200512222152.05427.p_christ@hol.gr>
     [not found]         ` <1135291436.14685.7.camel@localhost>
2005-12-22 22:55           ` Mike Krufky
     [not found]             ` <200512230121.48882.p_christ@hol.gr>
2005-12-23  1:07               ` Michael Krufky
2005-12-23 11:50       ` Gottfried Haider
2006-01-02 16:00         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-01-04 16:38           ` Greg KH
2005-12-22 15:16     ` David S. Miller

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