From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751607AbWADI74 (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:59:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751605AbWADI7z (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:59:55 -0500 Received: from [81.2.110.250] ([81.2.110.250]:44260 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751602AbWADI7y convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 03:59:54 -0500 Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] schedule obsolete OSS drivers for removal From: Alan Cox To: Tomasz =?iso-8859-2?Q?K=B3oczko?= Cc: Adrian Bunk , Jesper Juhl , Takashi Iwai , Olivier Galibert , Alistair John Strachan , Jan Engelhardt , Andi Kleen , perex@suse.cz, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, James@superbug.demon.co.uk, sailer@ife.ee.ethz.ch, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org, zab@zabbo.net, kyle@parisc-linux.org, parisc-linux@lists.parisc-linux.org, jgarzik@pobox.com, Thorsten Knabe , zwane@commfireservices.com, zaitcev@yahoo.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <20060103203732.GF5262@irc.pl> <9a8748490601031256x916bddav794fecdcf263fb55@mail.gmail.com> <20060103215654.GH3831@stusta.de> <20060103221314.GB23175@irc.pl> <20060103231009.GI3831@stusta.de> <20060104000344.GJ3831@stusta.de> <20060104010123.GK3831@stusta.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 08:50:34 +0000 Message-Id: <1136364634.22598.70.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mer, 2006-01-04 at 03:51 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > Be compliant with OSS specyfication allow save many time on applications > development level by consume (in good sense) time spend on this > applications by *BSD, Solaris and other systems developers (even on not > open source applications). Both Solaris and FreeBSD contain Linux emulation code so in that sense they admitted 'defeat' long ago. > valuable functionalities in usable/simpler form for joe-like users .. > remember: sound support in Linux isn't for data centers/big-ass-machines :) And distributions nowdays ship with ALSA by default, which is giving users far better audio timing behaviour, mixing they want, digital and analogue 5.1 outputs. OSS really isn't ideal for serious "end user" applications like video playback Alan