From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932408AbWAIQFD (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:05:03 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932424AbWAIQFD (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:05:03 -0500 Received: from [81.2.110.250] ([81.2.110.250]:61660 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932408AbWAIQFA (ORCPT ); Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:05:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Why the DOS has many ntfs read and write driver,but the linux can't for a long time From: Alan Cox To: Yaroslav Rastrigin Cc: Kasper Sandberg , Alistair John Strachan , andersen@codepoet.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <200601091656.48355.yarick@it-territory.ru> References: <174467f50601082354y7ca871c7k@mail.gmail.com> <200601091403.46304.yarick@it-territory.ru> <1136813783.8412.4.camel@localhost> <200601091656.48355.yarick@it-territory.ru> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2006 16:07:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1136822827.6659.25.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 (2.2.3-2.fc4) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Llu, 2006-01-09 at 16:56 +0300, Yaroslav Rastrigin wrote: > No. Fully loaded KDE session (without kdesktop and kwin, since I don't > use first and using my own WM instead of second). > So almost all necessary libraries are hot and loaded, and all what's > missing is a dozen of Window's and Pixmap's to allocate and two > threads to > handle events. And it takes seconds, not tens of a second, as in > UltraEdit case Currently Linux performance loading large binaries is at least perceptually worse than Windows (some of that is perceptual tricks windows apps pull, some of it real). There is an openoffice.org related analysis project currently under way to sort that out. A second problem is the popularity of some very inefficiently written desktops which badly need a good optimise, a diet and/or stuffing where the sun doesn't shine. The kernel can only do so much of the work and comparing xfce4 with gnome/kde shows that the kernel isn't the only party involved in this.... Alan