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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@suse.de>,
	Pekka J Enberg <penberg@cs.Helsinki.FI>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>, Robert Love <rml@novell.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 17:03:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1140624187.2979.38.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0602220737170.30245@g5.osdl.org>

On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 07:44 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:


[snip lots of good words about that breaking userspace ABIs is really
horrible]

I absolutely agree with what you say. HOWEVER hal is also terminally
broken. The thing they depend on is a *config option*. If they can't
deal with that config option not being enabled in a graceful way, that's
a series malfunction.


(and no this is not an excuse for breaking userspace ABIs at all,
although one can argue that this removing is almost the same as
disabling the config option)



  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-22 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-17 22:45 Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2006-02-17 23:14 ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 11:06   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 14:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-19 17:50       ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-19 21:14       ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-20  1:02         ` Greg KH
2006-02-20  7:08           ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-21 22:51           ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-21 22:57             ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-21 23:33               ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  0:04                 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22  0:15                   ` Mark Lord
2006-02-22  0:21                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  0:34                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22  0:46                       ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-22  1:06                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 11:21                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 14:25                           ` uswsusp & initrd -- was " Pavel Machek
2006-02-22 15:48                           ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 16:25                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 17:33                               ` Gabor Gombas
2006-02-22 17:57                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:37                                   ` Christian Trefzer
2006-02-22 18:59                                 ` Joel Becker
2006-02-22 19:18                                   ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 19:29                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 19:40                                       ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:45                                         ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-22 22:51                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-23  6:39                                             ` Jens Axboe
2006-02-23 17:29                                         ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 17:52                                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-23 18:01                                             ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23 18:04                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-23 20:26                                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-02-24 23:42                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-22 19:39                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 19:54                                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:02                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-22 20:12                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 20:44                                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22 20:26                                     ` Greg KH
2006-02-23  5:28                                       ` Jody McIntyre
2006-02-22 20:57                                     ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22 21:19                                     ` Russell King
2006-02-22 21:30                                       ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 20:47                             ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-22 19:07                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 17:06                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-02-23 12:36                         ` Paulo Marques
2006-02-22 10:49                   ` Diego Calleja
2006-02-22  7:06               ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-02-22 15:27                 ` Kay Sievers
2006-02-22 15:44                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 16:03                     ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2006-02-22 16:11                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:17                         ` sysfs regressions (was: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions) Matthias Andree
2006-02-22 17:47                           ` Greg KH
2006-02-22 16:18                     ` 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:35                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 16:46                         ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 16:51                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 17:08                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 17:31                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-22 18:04                           ` Al Viro
2006-02-23  3:01                             ` John Stoffel
2006-02-22 17:51                         ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:55                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-02-22 18:10                             ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 19:25                         ` David Zeuthen
2006-02-22 17:10                       ` Al Viro
2006-02-22 17:10                       ` grundig
2006-02-22 17:14                       ` Martin Bligh
2006-02-23  4:17                         ` Theodore Ts'o
2006-02-22 18:10                   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-02-22  8:28               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-17 23:27 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 Nigel Cunningham
2006-02-18  8:59 ` Edmondo Tommasina
2006-02-18  9:19   ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 10:20     ` Con Kolivas
2006-02-18 11:26       ` Gene Heskett
2006-02-18 16:04 ` Jean Delvare
2006-02-22 22:02 ` Linux 2.6.16-rc4 edac oops Mark Rustad
2006-02-24 11:09   ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-22  2:39 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions Yu, Luming
2006-02-22  3:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-02-22  6:55 Yu, Luming
2006-02-22 12:23 ` Adrian Bunk

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