From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030180AbWBVQqx (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:46:53 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030204AbWBVQqw (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:46:52 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([66.187.233.31]:55449 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030180AbWBVQqw (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:46:52 -0500 Subject: Re: 2.6.16-rc4: known regressions From: David Zeuthen To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: Linus Torvalds , Kay Sievers , Pekka J Enberg , Greg KH , Adrian Bunk , Robert Love , Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , John Stultz In-Reply-To: <20060222163511.GA18694@infradead.org> References: <84144f020602190306o3149d51by82b8ccc6108af012@mail.gmail.com> <20060219145442.GA4971@stusta.de> <1140383653.11403.8.camel@localhost> <20060220010205.GB22738@suse.de> <1140562261.11278.6.camel@localhost> <20060221225718.GA12480@vrfy.org> <20060222152743.GA22281@vrfy.org> <1140625103.21517.18.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> <20060222163511.GA18694@infradead.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 11:46:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1140626762.21517.24.camel@daxter.boston.redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.5.90 (2.5.90-2.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2006-02-22 at 16:35 +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 11:18:22AM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > For just one example of API breaking see > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=175998 > > > > This breaks stuff for end users in a stable distribution. Not good. > > That's not an API breakage. The API is left untouched, the driver > now just reports the attached device as what it is. ABI then, whatever.. > If HAL wasn't > a piece of cargo-cult programming crap We love you too Christoph. > you'd see in the relevant > standards what scsi device types exist, or even better stop relying > on such low-level knowledge. Then don't export it unless it's useful. You did break ABI, don't try to make up stupid excuses. > It's a disk if sd_mod attaches to it > is a much better rule than relying on lowlevel SAM details. That's another way to do it. David