From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932778AbWLNUUd (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:20:33 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932789AbWLNUUd (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:20:33 -0500 Received: from adelie.ubuntu.com ([82.211.81.139]:43708 "EHLO adelie.ubuntu.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S932778AbWLNUUc (ORCPT ); Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:20:32 -0500 Subject: Re: GPL only modules [was Re: [GIT PATCH] more Driver core patches for 2.6.19] From: Ben Collins To: Michael Buesch Cc: Linus Torvalds , Greg KH , Jonathan Corbet , Andrew Morton , "Michael K. Edwards" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Martin J. Bligh" In-Reply-To: <200612142029.47753.mb@bu3sch.de> References: <20061214003246.GA12162@suse.de> <4580E37F.8000305@mbligh.org> <1166105545.6748.212.camel@gullible> <200612142029.47753.mb@bu3sch.de> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <1166127594.6748.295.camel@gullible> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 20:29 +0100, Michael Buesch wrote: > On Thursday 14 December 2006 15:12, Ben Collins wrote: > > You can't talk about drivers that don't exist for Linux. Things like > > bcm43xx aren't effected by this new restriction for GPL-only drivers. > > There's no binary-only driver for it (ndiswrapper doesn't count). If the > > hardware vendor doesn't want to write a driver for linux, you can't make > > them. You can buy other hardware, but that's about it. > > Not that is matters in this discussion, but there are binary Broadcom > 43xx drivers for linux available. > > > Here's the list of proprietary drivers that are in Ubuntu's restricted > > modules package: > > > > madwifi (closed hal implementation, being replaced in openhal) > > fritz > > Well, that's not just one, right? > That's like, 10 or so for the different AVM cards. > I'm just estimating. Correct me, if I'm wrong. One driver, many variations of the chipset. That's true of most drivers. > (And if I didn't mention it yet; AVM binary drivers are > complete crap.) Wont disagree with you there.