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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, staubach@redhat.com,
	hugh@veritas.com
Subject: Re: [patch 2/8] update ctime and mtime for mmaped write
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:28:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1173220101.6374.118.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1HOhzG-0006bd-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 23:18 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > None what so ever, but I always think of msync as a rare function
> > > (infrequent when compared to (minor) faults overall). But I don't have
> > > numbers backing that up either.
> > > 
> > > Also, the radix tree scan you do isn't exactly cheap either. 
> > > 
> > > So what I was wondering is whether its worth optimizing this at the cost
> > > of another rmap walker. (one with very dubious semantics at that - it
> > > clears the pte dirty bit but doesn't particularly care about that nor
> > > does it respect the PG_dirty / PTE dirty relation)
> > 
> > What this functionality requires is that MS_ASYNC is a full barrier wrt.
> > dirtyness. That is, we want to call set_page_dirty_mappig() as soon as
> > we touch a page in a dirtying fashion after MS_{,A}SYNC gets called.
> > 
> > Hence we need the full page_mkclean() functionality, otherwise we don't
> > set AS_CMTIME again in time.
> 
> AS_CMTIME is only for the case, when the "file modified since the last
> msync" info is lost from the ptes, e.g. because of page reclaim.
> 
> So it doesn't matter if AS_CMTIME is not set, is_page_modified() will
> provide the necessary barrier.

The trouble is, we went from a pull to a push model, and now you're
adding pull code again.

We have PG_dirty correct at all times, I think its no less reasonable to
have AS_CMTIME correct in the same fashion.


  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-06 22:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-06 18:04 [patch 0/8] VFS/VM patches Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 1/8] fix race in clear_page_dirty_for_io() Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:25   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 2/8] update ctime and mtime for mmaped write Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 20:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 21:24     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 21:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 22:00         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:07         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-06 22:18           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 22:28             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-03-06 22:36               ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 3/8] per backing_dev dirty and writeback page accounting Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12  6:23   ` David Chinner
2007-03-12 11:40     ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12 21:44       ` David Chinner
2007-03-12 22:36         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-12 23:12           ` David Chinner
2007-03-13  8:21             ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-13 22:12               ` David Chinner
2007-03-14 22:09                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 4/8] fix deadlock in balance_dirty_pages Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 5/8] fix deadlock in throttle_vm_writeout Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 6/8] balance dirty pages from loop device Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 7/8] add filesystem subtype support Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-06 18:04 ` [patch 8/8] consolidate generic_writepages and mpage_writepages fix Miklos Szeredi
2007-03-07 20:46   ` Andrew Morton
2007-03-07 21:26     ` Miklos Szeredi

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