From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751596AbXCNRAG (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:00:06 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751602AbXCNRAF (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:00:05 -0400 Received: from gateway-1237.mvista.com ([63.81.120.158]:24877 "EHLO gateway-1237.mvista.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751558AbXCNRAB (ORCPT ); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:00:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Stolen and degraded time and schedulers From: Daniel Walker To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge Cc: john stultz , Andi Kleen , Ingo Molnar , Thomas Gleixner , Con Kolivas , Rusty Russell , Zachary Amsden , James Morris , Chris Wright , Linux Kernel Mailing List , cpufreq@lists.linux.org.uk, Virtualization Mailing List In-Reply-To: <45F824BE.1060708@goop.org> References: <45F6D1D0.6080905@goop.org> <1173816769.22180.14.camel@localhost> <45F70A71.9090205@goop.org> <1173821224.1416.24.camel@dwalker1> <45F71EA5.2090203@goop.org> <1173837606.23595.32.camel@imap.mvista.com> <45F79B9C.20609@goop.org> <1173888673.3101.12.camel@imap.mvista.com> <45F824BE.1060708@goop.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:59:55 -0700 Message-Id: <1173891595.3101.17.camel@imap.mvista.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2.1 (2.8.2.1-3.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 09:37 -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote: > Daniel Walker wrote: > > Then your direction is wrong, sched_clock() should be constant ideally > > (1millisecond should really be 1millisecond). > > Rather than repeating myself, I suggest you read my original post > again. But my point is that "I was runnable on a cpu for 1ms of real > time" is a meaningless measurement: you want to measure "I ran for 1 > cpu-ms", which is a unit which depends on how work a particular CPU does > in relationship to other CPUs on the system, or even itself at some > previous time. I understood, I just don't agree that you suggested modification are the correct ones to make. > > Like I said in the last > > email, change the scheduler to make it aware of the variable quantum > > values. > > I suppose you could, but that seems more complex. I think you could > encode the same information in the measurement of how much work a cpu > actually got done while a process was scheduled on it. I know it's more complex, but that seems more like the "right" thing to do. Daniel