From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933387AbXCQIqi (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:46:38 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933651AbXCQIqi (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:46:38 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:43570 "HELO mail.gmx.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S933387AbXCQIqh (ORCPT ); Sat, 17 Mar 2007 04:46:37 -0400 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX183cN5vBpQ36HggsOu+ypsFwIYofuMqLh3OKMpaVz BFQu0lQ9s5hif4 Subject: Re: RSDL v0.31 From: Mike Galbraith To: David Lang Cc: Ingo Molnar , Nicholas Miell , Con Kolivas , ck@vds.kolivas.org, Al Boldi , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: References: <200703042335.26785.a1426z@gawab.com> <200703170040.48316.kernel@kolivas.org> <1174059299.7886.25.camel@Homer.simpson.net> <200703170813.32594.kernel@kolivas.org> <1174084207.7009.9.camel@Homer.simpson.net> <1174105443.3144.4.camel@entropy> <1174110965.7911.44.camel@Homer.simpson.net> <1174112768.3144.8.camel@entropy> <20070317074506.GA13685@elte.hu> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 09:46:27 +0100 Message-Id: <1174121187.8647.20.camel@Homer.simpson.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, 2007-03-16 at 23:44 -0800, David Lang wrote: > why isn't niceing X to -10 an acceptable option? Xorg's priority is only part of the problem. Every client that needs a substantial quantity of cpu while a hog is running will also need to be negative nice, no? > if you overload the box enough things slow down, what scheduler avoids that? (Hmm. What's overload in a multi-tasking multi-threaded world? I'm always going to have more tasks available than cpus at some time. With KDE, seems to be the norm any time I poke a button) > where RSDL 'regresses' is with multiple CPU hog running at once (more then the > number of real CPU's you have available) at the same priority, with one of them > being the X server process. > > the initial report was that with X + 2 cpu hogs on 1.5 cpu's there's more of a > slowdown (even with a nice difference of 5 between X and the other processes) I see interactivity regression with both X and client at nice -10 in the presence of any cpu hog load. Maybe a bug lurks. Maybe it's fairness. -Mike