From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756637AbXLLP1P (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:27:15 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751900AbXLLP05 (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:26:57 -0500 Received: from mummy.ncsc.mil ([144.51.88.129]:63159 "EHLO mummy.ncsc.mil" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751511AbXLLP0z (ORCPT ); Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:26:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/28] SECURITY: Allow kernel services to override LSM settings for task actions [try #2] From: Stephen Smalley To: casey@schaufler-ca.com Cc: David Howells , Karl MacMillan , viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, hch@infradead.org, Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <81862.27432.qm@web36605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <81862.27432.qm@web36605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: National Security Agency Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:25:27 -0500 Message-Id: <1197473127.1125.50.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-4.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 15:04 -0800, Casey Schaufler wrote: > --- David Howells wrote: > > > Stephen Smalley wrote: > > > > > All your code has to do is invoke a function provided by libselinux. > > > > Calling libselinux means it's a special case for a specific LSM. > > > > I think the best way to do this, then, has to be to dlopen the appropriate > > LSM > > library. That way I don't need to do any conditional compilation or linking, > > but can build all the bits in to cachefilesd and have the appropriate one > > selected by the /etc/cachefilesd.conf. > > > > So, what do I invoke in libselinux, how do I configure it, and how do I > > integrate the config into my RPM and install it? > > > > And then what does it give me that I can hand to the kernel (a context string > > for SELinux, I presume), how do I get the kernel to make a check on it, how > > do > > I configure the check and how do I install that config from my RPM (I presume > > I just need to modify the .fc, .if and .te files that I have already)? > > That seems like an awful lot of work. I suggest that what you > put in /etc/cachefilesd.conf is a line like: > > security_context:"" > > and have your daemon pass "" into the kernel using > a cachefile mechanism. The kernel code can call > security_secctx_to_secid("") to determine if it's valid. > No need to invoke LSM specific code in your daemon. You may need > to have an application, say cachefileselinuxcontext, that will > read the current policy and spit out an appropriate value of > "", but that can be separate and LSM specific without > mucking up your basic infrastructure applications. That sounds workable, although I think he will want a more specific hook than security_secctx_to_secid(), or possibly a second hook call, that would not only validate the context but authorize the use of it by the cachefilesd process. And then the security_task_kernel_act_as() hook just takes the secid as input rather than the task struct of the daemon, and applies it. At that point, nfsd can use the same mechanism for setting the acting SID based on the client process after doing its own authorization. > > > That mostly works, but it means that an update to policy may require an > > > update to /etc/cachefilesd.conf, or that switching from one policy to > > > another might likewise require changing that file. Versus using a > > > separate policy-provided config file for the label. > > > > Whilst that's a fair point, if it's in a config file somewhere, then someone > > may want to change it or someone may want to provide a second file for a > > second cache with a different security label. > > > > > BTW, as should be obvious, some LSMs aren't label-based at all, so it > > > would need to be optional. > > > > Aargh. In which case it might not be possible to make the SELinux context > > passing from userspace -> kernel generic for all LSMs:-( > > For LSM's that don't use labels what you will have to pass in > won't be a label, it will be something else. But since any LSM > that wants to do networking or audit will have to deal with > secid's and secctx's the method outlined above ought to fit the > bill. -- Stephen Smalley National Security Agency