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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/pageblock: remove false sharing in pageblock_flags
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 19:04:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <11d6c4ae-6eae-aef9-5652-73a8680cd6e4@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a7376a9c-82e8-7dc1-b656-9c0516738801@linux.alibaba.com>

On 8/19/20 10:09 AM, Alex Shi wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2020/8/19 下午3:57, Anshuman Khandual 写道:
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/19/2020 11:17 AM, Alex Shi wrote:
>>> Current pageblock_flags is only 4 bits, so it has to share a char size
>>> in cmpxchg when get set, the false sharing cause perf drop.
>>>
>>> If we incrase the bits up to 8, false sharing would gone in cmpxchg. and
>>> the only cost is half char per pageblock, which is half char per 128MB
>>> on x86, 4 chars in 1 GB.
>> 
>> Agreed that increase in memory utilization is negligible here but does
>> this really improve performance ?
>> 
> 
> It's no doubt in theory. and it would had a bad impact according to 
> commit e380bebe4771548  mm, compaction: keep migration source private to a single 

I don't think that commit is doing the test_and_set_skip() under lock to avoid
false sharing. I think it's done to simply make the test and set protected
against races without relying on e.g. a truly atomic test_and_set_bit(). It's
still noted that it's just a hint so it's not protected to others calling
set_pageblock_skip() from other contexts not under a lock.

> but I do have some problem in running thpscale/mmtest. I'd like to see if anyone
> could give a try.
> 
> BTW, I naturally hate the false sharing even it's in theory. Anyone who doesn't? :)
> 
> Thanks
> Alex 
> 


  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-09-01 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-19  5:47 [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/pageblock: mitigation cmpxchg false sharing in pageblock flags Alex Shi
2020-08-19  5:47 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] mm/pageblock: remove false sharing in pageblock_flags Alex Shi
2020-08-19  7:57   ` Anshuman Khandual
2020-08-19  8:09     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-19  8:13       ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19  8:36         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-19 16:50       ` Alexander Duyck
2020-08-30 10:00         ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 20:32           ` Alexander Duyck
2020-09-03  5:35             ` Alex Shi
2020-09-01 17:04       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2020-08-19  7:55 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] mm/pageblock: mitigation cmpxchg false sharing in pageblock flags Anshuman Khandual
2020-08-19  8:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-30 10:08     ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 10:14   ` Alex Shi
2020-08-30 10:18     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-31  8:40       ` Alex Shi

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