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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	lwoodman@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	minchan.kim@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] Use prepare_to_wait_exclusive() instead prepare_to_wait()
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:43:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1260942224.5766.57.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091216093533.CDF1.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 09:48 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > On 12/15/2009 12:32 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:45 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > >>> On 12/14/2009 07:30 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > >>>> if we don't use exclusive queue, wake_up() function wake _all_ waited
> > >>>> task. This is simply cpu wasting.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>>    		if (zone_watermark_ok(zone, sc->order, low_wmark_pages(zone),
> > >>>>    					0, 0)) {
> > >>>> -			wake_up(wq);
> > >>>> +			wake_up_all(wq);
> > >>>>    			finish_wait(wq,&wait);
> > >>>>    			sc->nr_reclaimed += sc->nr_to_reclaim;
> > >>>>    			return -ERESTARTSYS;
> > >>>
> > >>> I believe we want to wake the processes up one at a time
> > >>> here.
> > 
> > >> Actually, wake_up() and wake_up_all() aren't different so much.
> > >> Although we use wake_up(), the task wake up next task before
> > >> try to alloate memory. then, it's similar to wake_up_all().
> > 
> > That is a good point.  Maybe processes need to wait a little
> > in this if() condition, before the wake_up().  That would give
> > the previous process a chance to allocate memory and we can
> > avoid waking up too many processes.
> 
> if we really need wait a bit, Mike's wake_up_batch is best, I think.
> It mean
>  - if another CPU is idle, wake up one process soon. iow, it don't
>    make meaningless idle.

Along those lines, there's also NEWIDLE balancing considerations.  That
idle may result in a task being pulled, which may or may not hurt a bit.

'course, if you're jamming up on memory allocation, that's the least of
your worries, but every idle avoided is potentially a pull avoided.

Just a thought.

	-Mike


  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-16  5:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-11 21:46 [PATCH v2] vmscan: limit concurrent reclaimers in shrink_zone Rik van Riel
2009-12-14  0:14 ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14  4:09   ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14  4:19     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14  4:29       ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14  5:00         ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:23   ` [cleanup][PATCH 1/8] vmscan: Make shrink_zone_begin/end helper function KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:34     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:39     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:24   ` [PATCH 2/8] Mark sleep_on as deprecated KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 13:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-12-14 16:04       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-12-14 14:34     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:44     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:29   ` [PATCH 3/8] Don't use sleep_on() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:35     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 22:46     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:30   ` [PATCH 4/8] Use prepare_to_wait_exclusive() instead prepare_to_wait() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:33     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-15  0:45       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  5:32         ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15  8:28           ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 14:36             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 14:58           ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-15 18:17             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 18:43             ` Mike Galbraith
2009-12-15 19:33               ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-16  0:48             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-16  2:44               ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-16  5:43               ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2009-12-14 23:03     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:30   ` [PATCH 5/8] Use io_schedule() instead schedule() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:37     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:46     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15  0:56       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  1:13         ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:31   ` [PATCH 6/8] Stop reclaim quickly when the task reclaimed enough lots pages KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:45     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:51       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  0:11     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15  0:35       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:32   ` [PATCH 7/8] Use TASK_KILLABLE instead TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:47     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:52     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-14 12:32   ` [PATCH 8/8] mm: Give up allocation if the task have fatal signal KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 14:48     ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-14 23:54     ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15  0:50       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  1:03         ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-15  1:16           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 12:40   ` [PATCH v2] vmscan: limit concurrent reclaimers in shrink_zone KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-14 17:08 ` Larry Woodman
2009-12-15  0:49   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
     [not found]   ` <20091217193818.9FA9.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
2009-12-17 12:23     ` FWD: " Larry Woodman
2009-12-17 14:43       ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-17 19:55       ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-17 21:05         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-17 22:52           ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 16:23           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-18 17:43             ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 10:27       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-18 14:09         ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 13:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-18 14:12   ` Rik van Riel
2009-12-18 14:13     ` Avi Kivity

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