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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 01:16:24 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1269533784.1814.64.camel@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100325180221.e1d9bae7.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 18:02 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:32:35 +0000
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:49:23AM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 03:21:41PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote: 
> > > Hmmm...
> > > I haven't understand your mention because I guess I was wrong.
> > > 
> > > probably my last question was unclear. I mean,
> > > 
> > > 1) If we still need SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU, why do we need to add refcount?
> > >     Which difference is exist between normal page migration and compaction?
> > 
> > The processes typically calling migration today own the page they are moving
> > and is not going to exit unexpectedly during migration.
> > 
> > > 2) If we added refcount, which race will solve?
> > > 
> > 
> > The process exiting and the last anon_vma being dropped while compaction
> > is running. This can be reliably triggered with compaction.
> > 
> > > IOW, Is this patch fix old issue or compaction specific issue?
> > > 
> > 
> > Strictly speaking, it's an old issue but in practice it's impossible to
> > trigger because the process migrating always owns the page. Compaction
> > moves pages belonging to arbitrary processes.
> > 
> Kosaki-san,
> 
>  IIUC, the race in memory-hotunplug was fixed by this patch [2/11].
> 
>  But, this behavior of unmap_and_move() requires access to _freed_
>  objects (spinlock). Even if it's safe because of SLAB_DESTROY_BY_RCU,
>  it't not good habit in general.

I agree kosaki's opinion. 

I guess Mel met the problem before this patch. 
Apparently, It had a problem like Mel's description. 
But we can close race window by this patch. 
so we don't need to new ref counter. 

At least, rcu_read_lock prevent anon_vma's free. 
so we can hold spinlock of anon_vma although it's not good habit.
About reusing anon_vma by SLAB_XXX_RCU, page_check_address and 
vma_address can prevent wrong working in try_to_unmap.  


>  After direct compaction, page-migration will be one of "core" code of
>  memory management. Then, I agree to patch [1/11] as our direction for
>  keeping sanity and showing direction to more updates. Maybe adding
>  refcnt and removing RCU in futuer is good.


I agree. (use one locking rule) 
I don't mean that we have to remove SLAB_XXX_RCU.
I want to reduce two locking rule with just one if we can. 
As far as we can do, I hope hide rcu_read_lock by Kame's version.
(Kame's version copy & page)
==

       if (PageAnon(page)) {
               struct anon_vma anon = page_lock_anon_vma(page);
               /* to take this lock, this page must be mapped. */
               if (!anon_vma)
                       goto uncharge;
               increase refcnt
               page_unlock_anon_vma(anon);
       }
       ....
==
and
==
void anon_vma_free(struct anon_vma *anon)
{
       /*
        * To increase refcnt of anon-vma, anon_vma->lock should be held by
        * page_lock_anon_vma(). It means anon_vma has a "mapped" page.
        * If this anon is freed by unmap or exit, all pages under this anon
        * must be unmapped. Then, just checking refcnt without lock is ok.
        */
       if (check refcnt > 0)
               return do nothing
       kmem_cache_free(anon);
}
==
Many locking rule would make many contributor very hard.

> 
>  IMHO, pushing this patch [2/11] as "BUGFIX" independent of this set and
>  adding anon_vma->refcnt [1/11] and [3/11] in 1st Direct-compaction patch
>  series  to show the direction will makse sense.
>  (I think merging 1/11 and 3/11 will be okay...)

Yes. For reducing locking, We can enhance it step by step after merge 
[1/11] and [3/11] if others doesn't oppose it any more. 

> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 


-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-12 16:41 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v4 Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 01/11] mm,migration: Take a reference to the anon_vma before migrating Mel Gorman
2010-03-14 15:01   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15  5:06   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  1:44   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-17 11:45     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-17 16:38       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-18 11:12         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-18 16:31           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-15  0:28   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15  5:34     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  6:28       ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15  6:44         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  7:09           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 13:48             ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15  7:11           ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15 11:28       ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-15 12:48         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15 14:21           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-15 14:33             ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15 23:49             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  2:12               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  3:00                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-17  3:15                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  4:15                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-17  4:19                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17 16:41                     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-18  0:30                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17 12:07                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  2:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-17 11:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-18  0:48                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-18 11:14                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-19  6:21                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19  8:59                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  2:49                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25  8:32                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  8:56                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25  9:18                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:02                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:09                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25  9:08                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:21                                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  9:41                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25  9:59                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25 10:12                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-25 13:39                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  3:07                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-26 13:49                                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 15:29                                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-26  0:58                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-26  1:39                                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-25 14:35                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-25 16:16                               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 03/11] mm: Share the anon_vma ref counts between KSM and page migration Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 17:14   ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-15  5:35   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-17  2:06   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 04/11] Allow CONFIG_MIGRATION to be set without CONFIG_NUMA or memory hot-remove Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  2:28   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-17 11:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-17 16:37       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-17 23:56         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-18 11:24           ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-19  6:21             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19 10:16               ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  3:28                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 05/11] Export unusable free space index via /proc/unusable_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-15  5:41   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15  9:48     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  2:42   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 06/11] Export fragmentation index via /proc/extfrag_index Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  2:49   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-17 11:33     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-23  0:22       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-23 12:03         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25  2:47           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25  8:47             ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 11:20               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25 14:11                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  3:10                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 07/11] Memory compaction core Mel Gorman
2010-03-15 13:44   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-15 14:41     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-17 10:31   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-17 11:40     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-18  2:35       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-18 11:43         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-19  6:21           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-18 17:08     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add /proc trigger for memory compaction Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  3:18   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 09/11] Add /sys trigger for per-node " Mel Gorman
2010-03-17  3:18   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 10/11] Direct compact when a high-order allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-03-16  2:47   ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-19  6:21   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19  6:31     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19 10:10       ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 11:22         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-19 10:09     ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-25 11:08       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-25 15:11         ` Mel Gorman
2010-03-26  6:01           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-12 16:41 ` [PATCH 11/11] Do not compact within a preferred zone after a compaction failure Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 [PATCH 0/11] Memory Compaction v5 Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 12:25 ` [PATCH 02/11] mm,migration: Do not try to migrate unmapped anonymous pages Mel Gorman
2010-03-23 17:22   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-03-23 18:04     ` Mel Gorman

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