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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, paulus@au.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: 64-bit ppc rwsem
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 08:01:25 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282600885.22370.453.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201008231544.16422.arnd@arndb.de>

On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:44 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> * Alpha has an optimization for the uniprocessor case, where the atomic
> instructions get turned into nonatomic additions. The spinlock based
> version uses no locks on UP but disables interrupts for reasons I don't
> understand (nothing running at interrupt time should try to access an rwsem).
> Should the generic version do the same as Alpha?

I've seen drivers in the past do trylocks at interrupt time ... tho I
agree it sucks.

> * Is there any architecture that would still benefit from having a separate
> rwsem implementation? AFAICT all the remaining ones are just variations of
> the same concept of using cmpxchg (or xadd in case of x86), which is what
> atomics typically end up doing anyway.

It depends how sensitive rwsems are. 

The "generic" variant based on atomic's and cmpxchg on powerpc is
sub-optimal in the sense that it has stronger memory barriers that would
be necessary (atomic_inc_return for example has both acquire and
release).

But that vs. one more pile of inline asm, we decided it wasn't hot
enough a spot for us to care back then.

Cheers,
Ben.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-23 22:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-18  1:03 [GIT] Sparc David Miller
2010-08-18  1:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-18  1:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-08-18  2:14     ` David Miller
2010-08-18  4:38       ` 64-bit ppc rwsem (was: Re: [GIT] Sparc) Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-18  5:03         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-18  5:28           ` 64-bit ppc rwsem David Miller
2010-08-18  5:39             ` Sam Ravnborg
2010-08-18  5:48               ` David Miller
2010-08-19  5:23             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-19  5:29               ` David Miller
2010-08-19 10:24                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-20  5:14                 ` [PATCH 1/2] powerpc: Make rwsem use "long" type Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-24  1:37                   ` Timur Tabi
2010-08-20  5:14                 ` [PATCH 2/2] rwsem: Move powerpc atomic-long based implementation to asm-generic Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-20  6:43                   ` Sam Ravnborg
2010-08-24  1:32                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-23  4:39                   ` David Miller
2010-08-23 13:44                 ` 64-bit ppc rwsem Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-23 22:01                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2010-08-23 22:18                     ` David Miller
2010-08-24  1:31                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-08-24 12:06                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-18  2:12   ` [GIT] Sparc David Miller
2010-08-18  2:50     ` Al Viro

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