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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@free.fr>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
	Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] net: Allow setting the network namespace by fd
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 07:51:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285329084.13976.661.camel@bigi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100923145856.GB1160234@jupiter.n2.diac24.net>

On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 16:58 +0200, David Lamparter wrote:

> migrating route table entries makes no sense because
> a) they refer to devices and configuration that does not exist in the
>    target namespace; they only make sense within their netns context
> b) they are purely virtual and you get the same result from deleting and
>    recreating them.
> 
> Network devices are special because they may have something attached to
> them, be it hardware or some daemon.

Routes functionally reside on top of netdevices, point to nexthop
neighbors across these netdevices etc. Underlying assumption is you take
care of that dependency when migrating.
We are talking about FIB entries here not the route cache; moving a few
pointers within the kernel is a hell lot faster than recreating a subset
of BGP entries from user space. 

Eric, I didnt follow the exposed-races arguement: Why would it involve
more than just some basic locking only while you change the struct net
pointer to the new namespace for these sub-subsystems?

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-24 11:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-23  8:45 [ABI REVIEW][PATCH 0/8] Namespace file descriptors Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:46 ` [PATCH 1/8] ns: proc files for namespace naming policy Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:46 ` [PATCH 2/8] ns: Introduce the setns syscall Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:47 ` [PATCH 3/8] ns proc: Add support for the network namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23 11:27   ` Louis Rilling
2010-09-23 16:00     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:48 ` [PATCH 4/8] ns proc: Add support for the uts namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:49 ` [PATCH 5/8] ns proc: Add support for the ipc namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:50 ` [PATCH 6/8] ns proc: Add support for the mount namespace Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:51 ` [PATCH 7/8] net: Allow setting the network namespace by fd Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  9:41   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-09-23 16:03     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23 11:22   ` jamal
2010-09-23 14:58     ` David Lamparter
2010-09-24 11:51       ` jamal [this message]
2010-09-24 12:57         ` David Lamparter
2010-09-24 13:32           ` jamal
2010-09-24 14:09             ` David Lamparter
2010-09-24 14:16               ` jamal
2010-09-23 15:14     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23 14:22   ` Brian Haley
2010-09-23 16:16     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-24 13:46   ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-09-23  8:51 ` [PATCH 8/8] net: Implement socketat Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23  8:56   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-09-23 11:19     ` jamal
2010-09-23 11:33       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-09-23 11:40         ` jamal
2010-09-23 11:53           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-09-23 12:11             ` jamal
2010-09-23 12:34               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-09-23 14:54                 ` David Lamparter
2010-09-23 15:00                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-02 21:13             ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-03 13:44               ` jamal
2010-10-04 10:13                 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-10-04 19:07                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-10-15 12:30                 ` netns patches WAS( " jamal
2010-10-26 20:52                   ` jamal
2010-10-27  0:27                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23 15:18 ` [ABI REVIEW][PATCH 0/8] Namespace file descriptors David Lamparter
2010-09-23 16:32   ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-09-23 16:49     ` David Lamparter
2010-09-24 13:02 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2010-09-24 13:49   ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-09-24 17:06     ` Eric W. Biederman

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