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From: "Alex,Shi" <alex.shi@intel.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Chen, Tim C" <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: recover sched_yield task running time increase
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 14:43:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1302158596.15889.7499.camel@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D9D55EF.3090606@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 14:13 +0800, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On 04/06/2011 11:08 PM, Alex,Shi wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 16:04 +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 06:33 +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> 
> >> You do know that any app that relies on sched_yield behaviour is more
> >> than broken? Using sched_yield() for anything other than SCHED_FIFO
> >> tasks is well outside spec.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, apparently you used sysctl_sched_compat_yield, which was
> >> bound to disappear some time, since with the default settings the yield
> >> semantics didn't actually change.
> >
> > Yes, I used sched_compat_yield, otherwise volano will become extremely
> > slow in my single machine testing. We may reconsider our testing
> > setting.
> 
> With what JVM is this happening?

I used openjdk from fedora 10~13 and jrockit-R27.3.1-jre1.5.0_11, both
of them use sched_yield much. And I just did a quick try with
jrockit-R27.4.0-jre1.6.0_02.x86_64, it had same problem.

> 
> Surely not every JVM uses user space spinlocks and
> yield, when we have futexes available?

No, just 7 times futex called in testing, so I think the JVM did not use
it. 
> 
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2011-04-07  6:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-05 22:33 [PATCH] sched: recover sched_yield task running time increase Alex Shi
2011-04-06  5:07 ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-06  6:15   ` Alex,Shi
2011-04-06  7:01     ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-06 13:28       ` Shi, Alex
2011-04-07  2:44         ` Mike Galbraith
2011-04-06  8:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-06 14:42   ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-06 15:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-04-07  3:08   ` Alex,Shi
2011-04-07  6:13     ` Rik van Riel
2011-04-07  6:43       ` Alex,Shi [this message]
2011-04-07  8:52         ` Ingo Molnar

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