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From: Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@suse.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/7] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:21:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1322058075.7041.46.camel@marge.simson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1322053030.7041.32.camel@marge.simson.net>

On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 13:57 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 13:27 +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:

> > Now I'm not saying this all isn't worth it, just saying my brain is
> > having difficulty seeing how it all makes sense :-)
> 
> They make sense only in that one cheap number generator bandaids three
> owies.  It's fugly but effective :)

Addendum:

That number represents scheduler busyness.  If we're "this" busy, it's
not worth entering nohz, there's unlikely to be enough overlap to be
worth going after at the expense of L2 misses fro L3 equipped CPUs, and
we can't afford to futz around with load balancing just now.

"this" is arbitrary, but in the select_idle_sibling() case at least,
it's impossible to know what any wakee will do with the CPU, so you're
stuck with arbitrary no matter what you use to shut the thing off.

	-Mike


  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-23 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-15  9:46 sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-16  1:14 ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-16  9:24   ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-16 18:37     ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-17  1:59       ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:38         ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 15:56           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-17 16:38             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 17:36               ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:14                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:17                   ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:34                       ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:17                       ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:18                         ` [patch 1/7] " Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06  9:50                           ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Use " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:20                         ` [patch 2/7] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06 20:20                           ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Save " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:21                         ` [patch 3/7] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:53                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:06                             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:48                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-24  3:50                             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-24 10:12                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-25  6:39                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06  9:51                           ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Set " tip-bot for Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:22                         ` [patch 4/7] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:55                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:09                             ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:27                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:57                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 14:21                                   ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2011-11-22 14:23                         ` [patch 5/7] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:24                         ` [patch 6/7] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 11:57                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-23 12:35                           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-22 14:26                         ` [patch 7/7] sched: only use TTWU_QUEUE when waker/wakee CPUs do not share top level cache Mike Galbraith
2011-11-23 12:08                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:39                     ` [patch 1/6] sched: use rt.nr_cpus_allowed to recover select_task_rq() cycles Hillf Danton
2011-11-18 15:18                   ` [patch 2/6] sched: convert rq->avg_idle to rq->avg_event Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:19                   ` [patch 3/6] sched: use rq->avg_event to resurrect nohz ratelimiting Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:36                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 17:42                       ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-19  0:51                         ` Van De Ven, Arjan
2011-11-19  4:15                           ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:20                   ` [patch 4/6] sched: ratelimit select_idle_sibling()for sync wakeups Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:22                   ` [patch 5/6] sched: save some hrtick_start_fair cycles Mike Galbraith
2011-11-18 15:23                   ` [patch 6/6] sched: set skip_clock_update in yield_task_fair() Mike Galbraith
2012-02-20 14:41                   ` sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 15:03                     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:25                       ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21  0:06                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21  6:37                           ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21  8:09                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 18:14                     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-20 18:15                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 19:07                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21  5:43                         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21  8:32                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-21  9:21                             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-21 10:37                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-21 14:58                                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 10:49                       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:19                         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 12:18                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:20                         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 11:26                           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:32                             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-23 16:17                               ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-23 11:21                         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-25  6:54                           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-25  8:30                             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-02-27 22:11                               ` Suresh Siddha
2012-02-28  5:05                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-17 19:08             ` Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 15:12               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-18 15:26                 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-12-06  9:49               ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Clean up domain traversal in select_idle_sibling() tip-bot for Suresh Siddha
2011-11-18 23:40 ` [tip:sched/core] sched: Avoid SMT siblings in select_idle_sibling() if possible tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra

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