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From: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mjt@tls.msk.ru,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, autofs@vger.kernel.org,
	thomas@m3y3r.de, stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Introduce a version6 of autofs interface, to fix design error.
Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:56:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1335578184.4141.9.camel@perseus.themaw.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120427.151433.1007849975903946491.davem@davemloft.net>

On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 15:14 -0400, David Miller wrote:
> From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:55:12 -0700
> 
> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Linus Torvalds
> > <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> There's no question that systemd is broken.
> > 
> > Actually, I'll take that back.
> > 
> > Yes, systemd has breakage. But it's actually automount that is the
> > truly broken piece of sh*t.
> > 
> > I think that 'automount' is even more broken. The fact that the
> > automount maintainers knew about this, and added TOTALLY BROKEN code
> > to their automount source tree, over five years ago, because the
> > authors clearly did not understand what the f*ck they were doing,
> > that's the real problem.
> 
> I respectfully disagree.
> 
> It's ugly as shit, but it is the only one place where one can be
> absolutely sure that we are dealing with a pipe passing those v5
> things around.
> 
> All these hacks we have been talking about, assuming the mount means
> the pipe is for passing structure so-and-so around, and now trying
> to find some other check such as one on current->comm...
> 
> That's better?
> 
> Only the application really knows.  And I bet the person who wrote
> that automountd code you find so distasteful analyzed this and came
> to realize how difficult the kernel side would be to get right.

There's nothing I can say in my defense, Linus has made that very clear,
over and again.

When I realized the alignment mistake there were already shipping
binaries so I decided it was too late to change that.

And I see I got the analysis of the architectures alignment wrong, mmmm,
that's bad as well.

I guess I'll just be quiet now since anything I say is probably going to
be wrong.

Ian



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-04-28  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-26 13:34 [PATCH v2] Introduce a version6 of autofs interface, to fix design error Michael Tokarev
2012-04-26 13:44 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27  0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27  9:45   ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27 15:47     ` Mark Lord
2012-04-27 20:37       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-28 22:20         ` Mark Lord
2012-04-27 16:22     ` David Miller
2012-04-27 17:10       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27 17:28         ` David Miller
2012-04-27 18:19     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 18:34       ` David Miller
2012-04-27 18:42         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 18:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 19:14             ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:16               ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 19:24                   ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 20:13                       ` Stef Bon
2012-04-27 20:29                       ` David Miller
2012-04-27 22:40                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 20:43                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 22:42                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 22:56                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 23:07                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-28  0:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-28  0:17                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 22:42                       ` Alan Cox
2012-04-27 22:49                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 23:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-28 16:10                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29  6:37                             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29  7:19                               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29  7:45                                 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29 18:29                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 19:09                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 19:53                                       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29 20:53                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-30  8:41                                         ` Thomas Meyer
2012-04-28  1:56               ` Ian Kent [this message]
2012-04-27 19:08           ` David Miller
2012-04-27 20:45             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 20:42       ` H. Peter Anvin

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