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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:31:48 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1348151508.13080.66.camel@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX5vXTZr_CNfCFDss7XG2PioxMqtpMTuYvoq7-ip2NNbA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 2012-09-17 at 16:49 -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:

> I haven't looked in any great detail, but the approach looks sensible
> and should slow down the vsyscall code.
> 
> That being said, as long as you're playing with this, here are a
> couple thoughts:
> 
> 1. The TSC-reading code does this:
> 
> 	ret = (cycle_t)vget_cycles();
> 
> 	last = VVAR(vsyscall_gtod_data).clock.cycle_last;
> 
> 	if (likely(ret >= last))
> 		return ret;
> 
> I haven't specifically benchmarked the cost of that branch, but I
> suspect it's a fairly large fraction of the total cost of
> vclock_gettime.  IIUC, the point is that there might be a few cycles
> worth of clock skew even on systems with otherwise usable TSCs, and we
> don't want a different CPU to return complete garbage if the cycle
> count is just below cycle_last.
> 
> A different formulation would avoid the problem: set cycle_last to,
> say, 100ms *before* the time of the last update_vsyscall, and adjust
> the wall_time, etc variables accordingly.  That way a few cycles (or
> anything up to 100ms) or skew won't cause an overflow.  Then you could
> kill that branch.
> 

I'm curious... If the task gets preempted after reading ret, and doesn't
get to run again for another 200ms, would that break it?

-- Steve



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-20 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-17 22:04 [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 1/6][RFC] time: Move timekeeper structure to timekeeper_internal.h for vsyscall changes John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 2/6][RFC] time: Move update_vsyscall definitions to timekeeper_internal.h John Stultz
2012-09-27  3:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 3/6][RFC] time: Convert CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL to CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL_OLD John Stultz
2012-09-27  3:14   ` Paul Mackerras
2012-09-17 22:04 ` [PATCH 4/6][RFC] time: Introduce new GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:05 ` [PATCH 5/6][RFC] time: Only do nanosecond rounding on GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL_OLD systems John Stultz
2012-09-17 22:05 ` [PATCH 6/6][RFC] time: Convert x86_64 to using new update_vsyscall John Stultz
2012-09-17 23:49 ` [PATCH 0/6][RFC] Rework vsyscall to avoid truncation/rounding issue in timekeeping core Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18  0:20   ` John Stultz
2012-09-18  0:43     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18 18:02     ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-18 18:17       ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-18 18:29       ` John Stultz
2012-09-19  4:50         ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19  5:30           ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-19 16:31           ` John Stultz
2012-09-19 17:03             ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19 17:54               ` John Stultz
2012-09-19 18:26                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-19 20:50                   ` Luck, Tony
2012-09-19 21:11                     ` John Stultz
2012-09-20  7:36                       ` Richard Cochran
2012-09-19 21:15                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-09-20 14:31   ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2012-09-20 17:32     ` Andy Lutomirski

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