From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Nikolay Ulyanitsky <lystor@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 04:00:45 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1348624845.7100.147.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzf=CApkYn+m5omwg+9-9i=11vj=7OMxKrCKb0qc-oBgg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, 2012-09-25 at 10:21 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> >
> > 3.6-rc6+tip/auto-latest-kill select_idle_sibling()
>
> Is this literally just removing it entirely? Because apart from the
> latency spike at 4 procs (and the latency numbers look very noisy, so
> that's probably just noise), it looks clearly superior to everything
> else. On that benchmark, at least.
Yes. On AMD, the best thing you can do for fast switchers AFAIKT is
turn it off. Different story on Intel.
> How does pgbench look? That's the one that apparently really wants to
> spread out, possibly due to user-level spinlocks. So I assume it will
> show the reverse pattern, with "kill select_idle_sibling" being the
> worst case. Sad, because it really would be lovely to just remove that
> thing ;)
It _is_ irritating. There's nohz, governors, and then come radically
different cross cpu data blasting ability on top. On Intel, it wins at
the same fast movers it demolishes on AMD. Throttle it, and that goes
away, along with some other issues.
Or just kill it, then integrate what it does for you into a smarter
lighter wakeup balance.. but then that has to climb that same hills.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-26 2:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-14 7:47 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets Nikolay Ulyanitsky
2012-09-14 18:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-14 18:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-14 21:27 ` 20% performance drop on PostgreSQL 9.2 from kernel 3.5.3 to 3.6-rc5 on AMD chipsets - bisected Borislav Petkov
2012-09-14 21:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-14 21:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 21:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-15 3:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-14 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-14 22:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-14 22:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-14 22:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-14 21:45 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-14 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-15 3:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 16:16 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-15 16:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 17:08 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2012-09-16 4:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 21:32 ` Alan Cox
2012-09-16 4:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-16 19:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-17 8:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-17 10:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-17 10:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-17 14:39 ` Andi Kleen
2012-09-19 12:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-19 14:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-19 15:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-24 15:00 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-24 15:23 ` Nikolay Ulyanitsky
2012-09-24 15:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-24 15:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-24 15:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-24 16:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-24 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-25 12:10 ` Hillf Danton
2012-09-24 16:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-24 16:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-24 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 17:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-25 13:23 ` Mel Gorman
2012-09-25 14:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 18:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-24 19:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-24 19:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-25 1:57 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-25 2:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-25 2:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-25 3:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-25 3:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-25 3:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-25 3:43 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-25 11:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-25 13:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-25 17:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-25 17:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-25 18:42 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-25 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-26 2:23 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-26 17:17 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-26 2:00 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2012-09-26 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-26 2:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-26 17:15 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-26 16:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-26 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-26 21:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 5:09 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 5:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 5:44 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 5:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-27 5:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-27 6:34 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 6:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-27 6:54 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 7:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-09-27 16:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 17:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-27 18:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-27 18:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-27 19:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-28 3:50 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-28 12:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 19:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-28 4:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-28 8:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-27 7:17 ` david
2012-09-27 7:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 10:20 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-27 13:38 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 16:55 ` david
2012-09-27 4:32 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-27 8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-27 16:48 ` david
2012-09-27 17:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-27 17:45 ` david
2012-09-27 18:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-27 18:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-09-27 18:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-25 1:39 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-25 21:11 ` Suresh Siddha
2012-09-25 4:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 4:11 ` Mike Galbraith
[not found] ` <CA+55aFz1A7HbMYS9o-GTS5Zm=Xx8MUD7cR05GMVo--2E34jcgQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-15 4:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 10:44 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-15 14:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 15:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-09-15 16:13 ` Mike Galbraith
2012-09-15 19:44 ` Borislav Petkov
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