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From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Clark Williams <clark@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Theurer <habanero@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] sched: The removal of idle_balance()
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 08:14:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1361085245.28353.3.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1361082363.6088.21.camel@marge.simpson.net>

On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 07:26 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote: 
> On Sat, 2013-02-16 at 11:12 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 08:26 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 01:13 -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Think about it some more, just because we go idle isn't enough reason to
> > > > pull a runable task over. CPUs go idle all the time, and tasks are woken
> > > > up all the time. There's no reason that we can't just wait for the sched
> > > > tick to decide its time to do a bit of balancing. Sure, it would be nice
> > > > if the idle CPU did the work. But I think that frame of mind was an
> > > > incorrect notion from back in the early 2000s and does not apply to
> > > > today's hardware, or perhaps it doesn't apply to the (relatively) new
> > > > CFS scheduler. If you want aggressive scheduling, make the task rt, and
> > > > it will do aggressive scheduling.
> > > 
> > > (the throttle is supposed to keep idle_balance() from doing severe
> > > damage, that may want a peek/tweak)
> > > 
> > > Hackbench spreads itself with FORK/EXEC balancing, how does say a kbuild
> > > do with no idle_balance()?
> > > 
> > 
> > Interesting, I added this patch and it brought down my hackbench to the
> > same level as removing idle_balance().
> 
> The typo did it's job well :)
> 
> Hrm, turning idle balancing off here does not help hackbench at all.

(And puts a dent in x264 ultrafast)

+SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE
encoded 600 frames, 425.04 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 416.07 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 417.49 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 420.65 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 425.55 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 425.58 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 426.18 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 424.21 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 422.20 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 423.15 fps, 22132.71 kb/s

-SD_BALANCE_NEWIDLE
encoded 600 frames, 378.52 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 378.75 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 378.20 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 372.54 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 366.69 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 378.46 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 379.89 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 382.25 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 384.10 fps, 22132.71 kb/s
encoded 600 frames, 375.24 fps, 22132.71 kb/s




  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-17  7:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-15  6:13 [RFC] sched: The removal of idle_balance() Steven Rostedt
2013-02-15  7:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-15 12:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-15 12:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-02-15 12:32     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-16 16:12   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-17  6:26     ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-17  7:14       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2013-02-17 21:54         ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18  3:42           ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-18 15:23             ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-18 17:22               ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-15  7:45 ` Joonsoo Kim
2013-02-15 15:05   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-17  6:26 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-02-18  8:13 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2013-02-18 15:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-02-19  4:13     ` Rakib Mullick
2013-02-19  7:29       ` Michael Wang

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