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From: Andrew Bartlett <abartlet@samba.org>
To: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
Cc: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ravishankar N <cyberax82@gmail.com>,
	Amit Sahrawat <amit.sahrawat83@gmail.com>,
	Nam-Jae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
	Ravishankar N <ravi.n1@samsung.com>,
	Amit Sahrawat <a.sahrawat@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: Read support for fat_fallocate()? (was [v2] fat: editions to support fat_fallocate())
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:11:14 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1361193074.5565.87.camel@jesse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fw0t26qu.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp>

On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 20:36 +0900, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:
> Andrew Bartlett <abartlet@samba.org> writes:

> > Or, if we cannot make any changes to the on-disk format, what about
> > keeping such a database in memory, allocating some of the existing free
> > list to files that have had fallocate() called on them?  (Naturally,
> > this makes it non-persistent, and instead more of a 'hint', but could at
> > least solve our mutual performance issues).
> 
> [...]
> 
> Hm. My concerns are compatibility and reliability. Although We can
> change on-disk format if need, but I don't think it can be compatible
> and reliable. If so, who wants to use it? I feel there is no reason to
> use FAT if there is no compatible.
> 
> Well, anyway, possible solution would be, we can pre-allocate physical
> blocks via fallocate(2) or something, but discard pre-allocated blocks
> at ->release() (or before unmount at least). This way would have
> compatibility (no on-disk change over unmount) and possible breakage
> would be same with normal extend write patterns on kernel crash
> (i.e. Windows or fsck will truncate after i_size).

That would certainly give me what the Samba NAS with USB FAT disk use
case needs.

Thanks,

Andrew Bartlett

-- 
Andrew Bartlett                                http://samba.org/~abartlet/
Authentication Developer, Samba Team           http://samba.org



  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-18 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-13 14:31 [PATCH v2] fat: editions to support fat_fallocate() Namjae Jeon
2012-10-14 16:20 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-10-16  4:12   ` Namjae Jeon
2012-10-16 10:14     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-10-17 10:57       ` Namjae Jeon
2012-10-21 23:54         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-10-22 15:10           ` Namjae Jeon
2012-10-23  7:19             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-10-23  7:24               ` Namjae Jeon
2013-02-14  2:40 ` Read support for fat_fallocate()? (was [v2] fat: editions to support fat_fallocate()) Andrew Bartlett
2013-02-14  2:48 ` Andrew Bartlett
2013-02-14  6:44   ` Namjae Jeon
2013-02-14  7:07     ` Andrew Bartlett
2013-02-14  9:52       ` Namjae Jeon
2013-02-15  3:49         ` Andrew Bartlett
2013-02-18 11:36           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-02-18 13:11             ` Andrew Bartlett [this message]
2013-02-18 14:25             ` Namjae Jeon
2013-02-18 14:59               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2013-02-18 15:15                 ` Namjae Jeon

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