From: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
To: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>,
mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
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Linux PM list <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch v7 0/21] sched: power aware scheduling
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:11:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1366989087.30242.11.camel@marge.simpson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <516F19EE.5060309@kernel.org>
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 17:53 -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> On 04/12/2013 12:48 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 18:23 +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 04:46:50PM +0800, Alex Shi wrote:
> >>> Thanks a lot for comments, Len!
> >>
> >> AFAICT, you kinda forgot to answer his most important question:
> >>
> >>> These numbers suggest that this patch series simultaneously
> >>> has a negative impact on performance and energy required
> >>> to retire the workload. Why do it?
> >
> > Hm. When I tested AIM7 compute on a NUMA box, there was a marked
> > throughput increase at the low to moderate load end of the test spectrum
> > IIRC. Fully repeatable. There were also other benefits unrelated to
> > power, ie mitigation of the evil face of select_idle_sibling(). I
> > rather liked what I saw during ~big box test-drive.
> >
> > (just saying there are other aspects besides joules in there)
>
> Mike,
>
> Can you re-run your AIM7 measurement with turbo-mode and HT-mode disabled,
> and then independently re-enable them?
>
> If you still see the performance benefit, then that proves
> that the scheduler hacks are not about tricking into
> turbo mode, but something else.
I did that today, neither turbo nor HT affected the performance gain. I
used the same box and patch set as tested before (v4), but plugged into
linus HEAD. "powersaving" AIM7 numbers are ~identical to those I posted
before, "performance" is lower at the low end of AIM7 test spectrum, but
as before, delta goes away once the load becomes hefty.
-Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-26 15:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-04 2:00 [patch v7 0/21] sched: power aware scheduling Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 01/21] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 02/21] sched: set initial value of runnable avg for new forked task Alex Shi
2013-05-06 3:24 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 03/21] sched: add sched balance policies in kernel Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 04/21] sched: add sysfs interface for sched_balance_policy selection Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 05/21] sched: log the cpu utilization at rq Alex Shi
2013-05-06 3:26 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-05-06 5:22 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-06 12:03 ` Phil Carmody
2013-05-06 12:35 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-06 21:19 ` Paul Turner
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 06/21] sched: add new sg/sd_lb_stats fields for incoming fork/exec/wake balancing Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 07/21] sched: move sg/sd_lb_stats struct ahead Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 08/21] sched: scale_rt_power rename and meaning change Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 09/21] sched: get rq potential maximum utilization Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 10/21] sched: add power aware scheduling in fork/exec/wake Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 11/21] sched: add sched_burst_threshold_ns as wakeup burst indicator Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 12/21] sched: using avg_idle to detect bursty wakeup Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 13/21] sched: packing transitory tasks in wakeup power balancing Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 14/21] sched: add power/performance balance allow flag Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 15/21] sched: pull all tasks from source group Alex Shi
2013-04-04 5:59 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-04-06 11:49 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 16/21] sched: no balance for prefer_sibling in power scheduling Alex Shi
2013-05-06 3:26 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 17/21] sched: add new members of sd_lb_stats Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:00 ` [patch v7 18/21] sched: power aware load balance Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:01 ` [patch v7 19/21] sched: lazy power balance Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:01 ` [patch v7 20/21] sched: don't do power balance on share cpu power domain Alex Shi
2013-04-08 3:17 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-08 3:25 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-08 4:19 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-04 2:01 ` [patch v7 21/21] sched: make sure select_tas_rq_fair get a cpu Alex Shi
2013-04-11 21:02 ` [patch v7 0/21] sched: power aware scheduling Len Brown
2013-04-12 8:46 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-12 16:23 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-12 16:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-12 17:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-14 1:36 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-17 21:53 ` Len Brown
2013-04-18 1:51 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-26 15:11 ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
2013-04-30 5:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-30 8:30 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-30 8:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-04-30 9:35 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-30 9:49 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-04-30 9:56 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-05-17 8:06 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-05-20 1:01 ` Alex Shi
2013-05-20 2:30 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-04-14 1:28 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-14 5:10 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-14 15:59 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-15 6:04 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-15 6:16 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-15 9:52 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-15 13:50 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-15 23:12 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-16 0:22 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-16 10:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-04-17 1:18 ` Alex Shi
2013-04-17 7:38 ` Borislav Petkov
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