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From: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Cc: zohar@linux.ibm.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	christian.brauner@ubuntu.com, containers@lists.linux.dev,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	krzysztof.struczynski@huawei.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	mpeters@redhat.com, lhinds@redhat.com, lsturman@redhat.com,
	puiterwi@redhat.com, jamjoom@us.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul@paul-moore.com,
	rgb@redhat.com, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 08/20] ima: Move measurement list related variables into ima_namespace
Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 07:46:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <141ce433f026b47edb1d9a8f89e4581db253c579.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211130160654.1418231-9-stefanb@linux.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 11:06 -0500, Stefan Berger wrote:
> Move measurement list related variables into the ima_namespace. This
> way a
> front-end like SecurityFS can show the measurement list inside an IMA
> namespace.
> 
> Implement ima_free_measurements() to free a list of measurements
> and call it when an IMA namespace is deleted.

This one worries me quite a lot.  What seems to be happening in this
code:

> @@ -107,7 +100,7 @@ static int ima_add_digest_entry(struct
> ima_namespace *ns,
>         qe->entry = entry;
>  
>         INIT_LIST_HEAD(&qe->later);
> -       list_add_tail_rcu(&qe->later, &ima_measurements);
> +       list_add_tail_rcu(&qe->later, &ns->ima_measurements);
>  
>         atomic_long_inc(&ns->ima_htable.len);
>         if (update_htable) {
> 

is that we now only add the measurements to the namespace list, but
that list is freed when the namespace dies.  However, the measurement
is still extended through the PCRs meaning we have incomplete
information for a replay after the namespace dies?

I tend to think the way this should work is that until we have a way of
attesting inside the namespace, all measurements should go into the
physical log, so that replay is always complete for the PCRs, so
effectively the visible log of the namespace would always have to be a
subset of the physical log.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-30 16:06 [RFC 00/20] ima: Namespace IMA with audit support in IMA-ns Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 01/20] ima: Add IMA namespace support Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 02/20] ima: Define ns_status for storing namespaced iint data Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 03/20] ima: Namespace audit status flags Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 04/20] ima: Move delayed work queue and variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 05/20] ima: Move IMA's keys queue related " Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 06/20] ima: Move policy " Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 07/20] ima: Move ima_htable " Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 08/20] ima: Move measurement list related variables " Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 12:46   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2021-12-02 13:41     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 16:29       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-02 16:45         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 17:44           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-02 18:03             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 20:03               ` James Bottomley
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 09/20] ima: Only accept AUDIT rules for IMA non-init_ima_ns namespaces for now Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 10/20] ima: Implement hierarchical processing of file accesses Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 11/20] securityfs: Prefix global variables with securityfs_ Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 12/20] securityfs: Pass static variables as parameters from top level functions Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 13/20] securityfs: Build securityfs_ns for namespacing support Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 13:35   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-02 13:47     ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 14/20] ima: Move some IMA policy and filesystem related variables into ima_namespace Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 15/20] capabilities: Introduce CAP_INTEGRITY_ADMIN Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 17:27   ` Casey Schaufler
2021-11-30 17:41     ` Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 17:50       ` Casey Schaufler
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 16/20] ima: Use ns_capable() for namespace policy access Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 17/20] ima: Use integrity_admin_ns_capable() to check corresponding capability Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 16:58   ` James Bottomley
2021-12-01 17:35     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 19:29       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-02  7:16         ` Denis Semakin
2021-12-02 12:33           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-02 17:54           ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 12:59         ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-02 13:01           ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-02 15:58             ` Casey Schaufler
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 18/20] userns: Introduce a refcount variable for calling early teardown function Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 19/20] ima/userns: Define early teardown function for IMA namespace Stefan Berger
2021-11-30 16:06 ` [RFC 20/20] ima: Setup securityfs_ns " Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 17:56   ` James Bottomley
2021-12-01 18:11     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 19:21       ` James Bottomley
2021-12-01 20:25         ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 21:11           ` James Bottomley
2021-12-01 21:34             ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 22:01               ` James Bottomley
2021-12-01 22:09                 ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-01 22:19                   ` James Bottomley
2021-12-02  0:02                     ` Stefan Berger
2021-12-02 13:18   ` Christian Brauner
2021-12-02 13:52     ` Stefan Berger

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