On śro, 2015-02-04 at 07:10 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 03:16:27PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > > On śro, 2015-02-04 at 05:14 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 01:00:18PM +0000, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 12:39:07PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > > > > > +Cc some ARM people > > > > > > > > I wish that people would CC this list with problems seen on ARM. I'm > > > > minded to just ignore this message because of this in the hope that by > > > > doing so, people will learn something... > > > > > > > > > > Another thing I could do would be to have an arch-specific Kconfig > > > > > > variable that made ARM responsible for informing RCU that the CPU > > > > > > was departing, which would allow a call to as follows to be placed > > > > > > immediately after the complete(): > > > > > > > > > > > > rcu_cpu_notify(NULL, CPU_DYING_IDLE, (void *)(long)smp_processor_id()); > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: This absolutely requires that the rcu_cpu_notify() -always- > > > > > > be allowed to execute!!! This will not work if there is -any- possibility > > > > > > of __cpu_die() powering off the outgoing CPU before the call to > > > > > > rcu_cpu_notify() returns. > > > > > > > > Exactly, so that's not going to be possible. The completion at that > > > > point marks the point at which power _could_ be removed from the CPU > > > > going down. > > > > > > OK, sounds like a polling loop is required. > > > > I thought about using wait_on_bit() in __cpu_die() (the waiting thread) > > and clearing the bit on CPU being powered down. What do you think about > > such idea? > > Hmmm... It looks to me that wait_on_bit() calls out_of_line_wait_on_bit(), > which in turn calls __wait_on_bit(), which calls prepare_to_wait() and > finish_wait(). These are in the scheduler, but this is being called from > the CPU that remains online, so that should be OK. > > But what do you invoke on the outgoing CPU? Can you get away with > simply clearing the bit, or do you also have to do a wakeup? It looks > to me like a wakeup is required, which would be illegal on the outgoing > CPU, which is at a point where it cannot legally invoke the scheduler. > Or am I missing something? Actually the timeout versions but I think that doesn't matter. The wait_on_bit will busy-loop with testing for the bit. Inside the loop it calls the 'action' which in my case will be bit_wait_io_timeout(). This calls schedule_timeout(). See proof of concept in attachment. One observed issue: hot unplug from commandline takes a lot more time. About 7 seconds instead of ~0.5. Probably I did something wrong. > > You know, this situation is giving me a bad case of nostalgia for the > old Sequent Symmetry and NUMA-Q hardware. On those platforms, the > outgoing CPU could turn itself off, and thus didn't need to tell some > other CPU when it was ready to be turned off. Seems to me that this > self-turn-off capability would be a great feature for future systems! There are a lot more issues with hotplug on ARM... Patch/RFC attached.