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On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 12:24 -0400, Paul Gortmaker wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > I'm getting *real* tired of that BUG_ON() shit.
[]
> > Killing the machine for idiotic things like that is truly offensive,
> > and truly horrible horrible code. Why do I keep on having to tell
> > people off for doing these things? Why do people keep thinking that
> > debugging-by-killing-the-machine is a good idea?
> 
> Ingo figured this was an educational battle that we'd never win.
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/5/21/490

That should still be applied but for the selfie/OED bit as
selfie is in the OED now...